Delta engine failure-Prague

[stilton]

Originally Posted by tdracer

Maybe the Mods could create a new heading for "Bitching about the USA" rather than continuously polluting (previously) productive discussions with this stuff.

Not a bad idea of course there’d be more than a few whining about the terminology used

[ATC Watcher]

Originally Posted by tdracer

Maybe the Mods could create a new heading for "Bitching about the USA" rather than continuously polluting (previously) productive discussions with this stuff.

It is not bitching about the USA, it is about making your own rules or phraseology that will bite you one day. And the US is not the worst , try the French and especially Air France , especially when flying domestically or in a Country that uses French in the R/T. Same thing. And I would bet Russians are doing the same domestically, etc.. Human nature with Alpha males I guess. We have a standard, not perfect, but it is a standard so that everyone understand what it has to do.
" Declaring emergency" might work with controller X in country Z, but in another part of the world it might not, with the local controller not reacting as you would expect because the magic word " Mayday" was not used.

That said I agree we have beaten the horse enough by now. Those that do not see the problem are not going to change anyway. .

[20driver]

Any news of what the engine problem was ?

[tdracer]

Originally Posted by ATC Watcher

It is not bitching about the USA, it is about making your own rules or phraseology that will bite you one day.

ATC, it's not the merit of the discussion - it's the sidetracking of the thread (as demonstrated by the post immediately after yours - many of us want to know what the engine problem was).
Same thing as whenever there is an evacuation, the thread inevitably gets sidetracked into discussions about people taking their carry-ons with them during the evacuation and what to do to prevent it. The discussion may have merit, but it's a complete sidetrack to the original issue of whatever happened that resulted in the evacuation. Like many of those on the forum, I'm far more interested in the original issue (and what could be done to prevent/correct it), but am forced to sort through seemingly endless discussions that are completely unrelated.
And this is far from a one-off - it happens on a very regular basis (I managed to earn a 10 day suspension with a somewhat verbose request that those wishing to discuss carry-ons during an evacuation create their own thread several years back).

[ATC Watcher]

Originally Posted by tdracer

ATC, it's not the merit of the discussion - it's the sidetracking of the thread ....... Like many of those on the forum, I'm far more interested in the original issue .

tdacer, , you are right . I should not have taken the bait. Always those same red herrings coming back, the carry-ons, French on the Frequency, US procedures, attacking ICAO, etc, always coming back year after year , I can't help myself jumping in , but I should have known better ,(Always appreciate your comments by the way ..)