A380 Birmingham(UK) to Dubai with 618 Passengers August 07 2023

[Lord Bracken]

Seems to just be one version of the two class, 58J 557M.

https://www.aerolopa.com/ek-388-2cl

Perhaps the Purser was thinking of the four class (one version) or three class (five versions).

[megan]

Emirates have four different seating arrangements.

Are you saying that Emirates have multiple seating arrangements of their two class 380

Only one set up for the two class.

https://www.emirates.com/au/english/...hjy-upper-deck

[rkenyon]

Originally Posted by atakacs

Are you saying that Emirates have multiple seating arrangements of their two class 380?

No they don't.

Originally Posted by UV

Yes, according to the Purser I spoke to this morning.

The purser was wrong.

There are 120 Y seats on the 2 class A380. 72 in the normal F class section, and 48 at the front of J class section.

https://www.aerolopa.com/ek-388-2cl

[Ivor_Bigunn]

Well, it seems like the numbers check out. As rog747 and others have pointed out, Emirates have several 2-class A380's with 615 passenger seats.

So you fill every single one, including every Business Class seat, and then add 3 infants w/o seats, or 3 non-operational staff on jump seats, to reach 618.

So I guess this number of passengers might have been equaled before in a flight to/from the UK.

But Capn Rex Havoc (great Name!!) in Post #29 shows us that he flew a similar A380 with 616 passengers from Copenhagen in 2015! So it seems numbers very, very close to 618 passengers must happen quite frequently.

But since it does not appear that anyone operates 1-class A380's, this may be highest in the world as well.

And, of course there is the Cabin Crew as well, maybe 30 persons ???, so the Total Souls On Board could be near 650.

I presume this what Captain Havoc is allowing for when he adds 26 by hand to his record, thus :




And now I wonder where the weight of the Cabin Crew and baggage is allowed for in the weight calculations ?



Also, I recall now that in about 1990 I returned from Seoul South Korea to Schiphol (AMS) on a B747 operated by KLM-Asia.

I queued up and checked in with my Economy Ticket, and was given seat assignment 1C !

Ha!

I was so excited. I was going to sitting up with the Pilots!! For some reason I had been upgraded to Business or First !

But, of course, when I got onboard the 747, the entire Main Deck was Economy, and I was sitting facing the front bulkhead (and I think the Electronics Room). I guess there was 400 passengers onboard maybe?

Well, I had extra leg room, but I remember that the flight was noisy and bumpy. My seat was in front of the point where the fuselage narrows.

I don't suppose KLM-Asia still exists ?

Rgds

IB

[212man]

And now I wonder where the weight of the Cabin Crew and baggage is allowed for in the weight calculations ?

They are in the Dry Operating Mass/Weight, which is part of the Zero Fuel Weight (ZFW) you can see

I don't suppose KLM-Asia still exists ?

As far as I know, it still exists. Created to allow flights to Taiwan

I was so excited. I was going to sitting up with the Pilots!! For some reason I had been upgraded to Business or First !

Last time I checked, 747 pilots sit on the top deck! Seats in Row 1 and 2 on the 747 have the dubious honour of being first at the scene of the accident - ahead of the pilots. Normally the pilots arrive first.......

[DaveReidUK]

Originally Posted by Ivor_Bigunn

I presume this what Captain Havoc is allowing for when he adds 26 by hand to his record

Allowance for the dogs of war, presumably.

[Andy_S]

Originally Posted by Ivor_Bigunn

But, of course, when I got onboard the 747, the entire Main Deck was Economy, and I was sitting facing the front bulkhead (and I think the Electronics Room). I guess there was 400 passengers onboard maybe?

Well, I had extra leg room, but I remember that the flight was noisy and bumpy. My seat was in front of the point where the fuselage narrows.

Many years ago now, but in the 1990s some Business Class seats on the main deck of the the KLM Asia 747s were redesignated as Economy. I assume that at some point the actual seats were replaced with standard economy class seats, but for a while you could actually have an Economy Class boarding pass but sit in a Business Class seat without technically being upgraded. If you were a top-tier Flying Dutchman member flying economy, you stood a good chance of getting one.