Ryanair chief pilot fired
Comparre this current event and process with eg the Sarah Everard murder case: once the suspect was arrested there was a complete media frenzy - social and mainstream. Nobody shut down chat sites or the TV/newspaper discussions. When a case like that comes to court, the judge simply directs the jury (in most countries) that they must consider the case on the facts presented to them in court, not what they might have read or seen beforehand.
Rather than shut this thread down, it would arguably be better to expand it - as already seems to be happening - into a wider discussion on harassment (sexual or otherwise) in the workplace. That way, we might set the conditions for more women to feel comfortable joining the industry.
The company has clearly done an investigation of its own to find sufficient cause to terminate the employment of this person. Any police involvement thereafter starts from scratch and is not going to consider anonymous postings on a chat site because it would not stand up as evidence.
=Really? You don't need to be a "Eunuch" to not sexually harass women.
The ultimate in virtue signalling.
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Its not necessarily the incident that ruins the people involved (both sides) but social media and the press. The world has gone totally mad largely due to social media and the keyboard experts !! As for the press, well, they are just unbelievably good at destroying people.
What are you implying there? That sexually harassing behaviour is acceptable in the workplace as any “red blooded man” would do the same?
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This has nothing to do with males or females. Ryanair management have correctly identified that in this day & age such a story is extremely toxic to their brand. So to distance themselves from a whole mess of bad publicity the alleged culprit gets thrown onto the fire without further ceremony. It is quite within Ryanair's capability to identify inappropriate roster shenanigans without having to put anyone on the rack. Gross misconduct in any company will get you instant dismissal so as long as they have followed the correct process, ending in 7 days to appeal, then he is toast and not coming back.
It's all about saying the right things and protecting the brand.
It's all about saying the right things and protecting the brand.
As a passenger one would think the Chief Pilot at any airline should have two qualifications above all
1 Judgement - clealry grossly lacking not just in what he did but the way he did it
2 Leadership - setting an example
Presumeably he would have had a major if not final say over crew careers , does Capt X get another spell in the sim or let go, does FO Y have the suitability for command , display judgment and analysis where significant incidents occur.
In his presumebly long career didnt anyone wonder , this blokes a bit strange' so while Ryanair have acted promptly and decisvely how the hell did he get that far in the first place
1 Judgement - clealry grossly lacking not just in what he did but the way he did it
2 Leadership - setting an example
Presumeably he would have had a major if not final say over crew careers , does Capt X get another spell in the sim or let go, does FO Y have the suitability for command , display judgment and analysis where significant incidents occur.
In his presumebly long career didnt anyone wonder , this blokes a bit strange' so while Ryanair have acted promptly and decisvely how the hell did he get that far in the first place
but one should treat those thus admired with the utmost respect and honor.
A chief will sometimes arrange to fly with a questionable pilot, to see for himself, or herself, if the negative
report from line Captains have merit, or not.
I have flown with numerous female pilots, but female attributes, or charm did not influence anything on the flight deck, none.
I was also married to a pilot. (Female in case somebody wondered.)
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I wasn't suggesting they agree. I'm fully 100% with them but it would be social media that makes them feel a whole lot worse possibly.
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As was made clear several years ago - and is still prominent on the opening page of the site - that anonymity can be stripped away if (whichever ) authority can show sufficient reason, or maybe even on request. The site-owner has said that they will hand over details if required ( unsure under what level of duress ) The post in itself is unlikely to be evidence, but may lead to such.
As was made clear several years ago - and is still prominent on the opening page of the site - that anonymity can be stripped away if (whichever ) authority can show sufficient reason, or maybe even on request. The site-owner has said that they will hand over details if required ( unsure under what level of duress ) The post in itself is unlikely to be evidence, but may lead to such.
While PPRuNe would doubtless also give a poster's details to a law enforcement agency who thought a poster might have information useful to an investigation, the likelihood of that scenario seems pretty remote.
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In his presumebly long career didnt anyone wonder , this blokes a bit strange' so while Ryanair have acted promptly and decisvely how the hell did he get that far in the first place