BA CC failed a breathalyser test
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Right decision
I once gave a station manager the benefit of the doubt and [email protected] her when I caught her stealing; I didn’t file a report but she did, obviously had contacts and I wasn’t believed. After a month I went to the chief pilot and told him if he didn’t believe me then I would return to the RHS which I had left after 20 years. It wasn’t the end of the story as she had contacts in traffic which affected my flight concessions.
I stayed in the LHS but covered my arse with paperwork or always had a witness and drew others into my decisions.
Its a bit like lending a friend money.
I stayed in the LHS but covered my arse with paperwork or always had a witness and drew others into my decisions.
Its a bit like lending a friend money.
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The aircraft arrived on stand 36, not a remote stand. The aircraft certainly was not “locked down”, the police walked the crew member in question from the aircraft and passengers disembarked normally a minute or two later. They did not “look on” as the crew member was arrested, as no arrest took place onboard.
Please let the investigation run its course before allowing the press to lead the speculation, is all I will say.
Please let the investigation run its course before allowing the press to lead the speculation, is all I will say.
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Originally Posted by ClearedToNowhere
The aircraft arrived on stand 36, not a remote stand. The aircraft certainly was not “locked down”, the police walked the crew member in question from the aircraft and passengers disembarked normally a minute or two later. They did not “look on” as the crew member was arrested, as no arrest took place onboard.
Please let the investigation run its course before allowing the press to lead the speculation, is all I will say.
Please let the investigation run its course before allowing the press to lead the speculation, is all I will say.
A long time ago on Qantas out of LHR i noticed one of the stewards was @issed out of his tree. I offered him my seat into which he promptly collapsed. I covered him with a blanket and made my way aft to the drinks trolley spending the rest of the flight to Bahrein watching the cabin "Manager" searching franticly for his lost crew, On approach I woke him and he made his way apparently sober to the service area
Originally Posted by reefrat
A long time ago on Qantas out of LHR i noticed one of the stewards was @issed out of his tree. I offered him my seat into which he promptly collapsed. I covered him with a blanket and made my way aft to the drinks trolley spending the rest of the flight to Bahrein watching the cabin "Manager" searching franticly for his lost crew, On approach I woke him and he made his way apparently sober to the service area
Originally Posted by reefrat
He was as full as a tick, he couldn't assist himself let alone others so there was no point in dobbing him in.
The main reason cabin crew are on board is for your safety, a role that is compromised by alcohol.
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Originally Posted by reefrat
He was as full as a tick, he couldn't assist himself let alone others so there was no point in dobbing him in.
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Originally Posted by reefrat
A long time ago on Qantas out of LHR i noticed one of the stewards was @issed out of his tree. I offered him my seat into which he promptly collapsed. I covered him with a blanket and made my way aft to the drinks trolley spending the rest of the flight to Bahrein watching the cabin "Manager" searching franticly for his lost crew, On approach I woke him and he made his way apparently sober to the service area
It cracks me up that some folk seem to think they're doing an alcoholic some sort of favour by enabling their behavior. In actual fact you're merely normalising it and making it more likely they go on to do something far more stupid like hopping in the car on the way home drunk and killing someone.
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There seems to be an assumption on here that every drunk person is an alcoholic?
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
There seems to be an assumption on here that every drunk person is an alcoholic?
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Anybody that needs to drink at work is an alcoholic. In my experience any airline employee that raises their hand and says 'I need help' is treated with the utmost compassion and supported by the company. I understand they have moral and legal obligation (in most civilised countries) to do so.
Sadly the majority continue to hide their lifestyle and have become very practiced at remaining under the radar. You may occasionally find someone regularly described as 'The Life & Soul of the party' on nightstops. In reality they may be seeking to normalise their own behavior by dragging in the rest of the crew..... On occasions that has lead to junior colleagues over-indulging, getting caught and losing their job whilst the real culprit goes unnoticed. (Scandinavia is definitely not a place for airline folk to be led astray). Having alcoholics around is not simply a bad idea from a safety point of view. Bad stuff seems to follow them around.
No alcoholic will voluntarily seek help until they hit rock-bottom. That might be losing their spouse, their job or simply one of their kids asking them why daddy always smells like a pub. In my career I have exercised my fair share of compassion. On two occasion I have come down to pickup in the hotel to find an FO who looked like death and smelt like a brewery. On both occasions I did them a favour and sent them back to bed with my diagnosis of food-poisoning..... and a warning from me that this has been a one-time favour and won't be repeated. We were all young and stupid once.
Sadly the majority continue to hide their lifestyle and have become very practiced at remaining under the radar. You may occasionally find someone regularly described as 'The Life & Soul of the party' on nightstops. In reality they may be seeking to normalise their own behavior by dragging in the rest of the crew..... On occasions that has lead to junior colleagues over-indulging, getting caught and losing their job whilst the real culprit goes unnoticed. (Scandinavia is definitely not a place for airline folk to be led astray). Having alcoholics around is not simply a bad idea from a safety point of view. Bad stuff seems to follow them around.
No alcoholic will voluntarily seek help until they hit rock-bottom. That might be losing their spouse, their job or simply one of their kids asking them why daddy always smells like a pub. In my career I have exercised my fair share of compassion. On two occasion I have come down to pickup in the hotel to find an FO who looked like death and smelt like a brewery. On both occasions I did them a favour and sent them back to bed with my diagnosis of food-poisoning..... and a warning from me that this has been a one-time favour and won't be repeated. We were all young and stupid once.
Originally Posted by ETOPS
I hear that BA have toughened up their guidance on employees and posting company info on social media.
Wonder if this is linked?
Wonder if this is linked?
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Originally Posted by ETOPS
I hear that BA have toughened up their guidance on employees and posting company info on social media.
Wonder if this is linked?
Wonder if this is linked?
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Originally Posted by nomilk
In uniform? How is that going to help?
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The social media policy was introduced the day of/the morning of the incident, so I don’t believe it is linked.
It is more centred around crew posting their rosters to social media, doing stupid dances in the aisle during turnaround and posting videos with the layover hotels tagged as their location, rather than putting a full stop to any posts, like the media is suggesting.
It is more centred around crew posting their rosters to social media, doing stupid dances in the aisle during turnaround and posting videos with the layover hotels tagged as their location, rather than putting a full stop to any posts, like the media is suggesting.
