Flybe again
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Seems very sudden, I didn’t hear any murmurs of this on the grapevine.
How much will the hedge fund that created Flybe#2 be able to sell the assets and slots for. Will they make a profit overall?
How much will the hedge fund that created Flybe#2 be able to sell the assets and slots for. Will they make a profit overall?
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"The administrator, Interpath Advisory, said Flybe had struggled to withstand a number of shocks since its relaunch last year, but highlighted the late delivery of 17 aircraft from lessors, which severely compromised its efforts to build back capacity and remain competitive."
Who on Earth writes this garbage without first doing some homework and investigation? A quick scan of 'Planespotters' will show that at least 6 aircraft have been moved on to other operators and another tranche (of the original 54 no-less) are being turned into Water Bombers!
"Flybe staff said they were informed the delays were down to the aircraft requiring “significant repair work” after they had been recovered from the original Flybe collapse in 2020. Delays were made worse by replacement parts’ supply chain problems lengthening the time it took finish repairs, they were told."
Yep, blame the lessors and Maintenance - easy target. Lets face it, up against EZE and RYR with a superior product with the same overheads the business model doesn't make sense.
Who on Earth writes this garbage without first doing some homework and investigation? A quick scan of 'Planespotters' will show that at least 6 aircraft have been moved on to other operators and another tranche (of the original 54 no-less) are being turned into Water Bombers!
"Flybe staff said they were informed the delays were down to the aircraft requiring “significant repair work” after they had been recovered from the original Flybe collapse in 2020. Delays were made worse by replacement parts’ supply chain problems lengthening the time it took finish repairs, they were told."
Yep, blame the lessors and Maintenance - easy target. Lets face it, up against EZE and RYR with a superior product with the same overheads the business model doesn't make sense.
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I think 4 out of 5 of us new it would end this way. Our regional airline model doesn't work. It's a bloody crying shame it doesn't considering how bad and expensive our railways are. The reason it doesn't work... most people don't even know it's possible to fly from Birmingham to Edinburgh. When considering they have to, they'll go online to find a coach or plan to drive. And dare I say it, most of the UK population have never even heard of FlyBe. The marketing always was terrible.
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Originally Posted by RudderTrimZero
I think 4 out of 5 of us new it would end this way. Our regional airline model doesn't work. It's a bloody crying shame it doesn't considering how bad and expensive our railways are. The reason it doesn't work... most people don't even know it's possible to fly from Birmingham to Edinburgh. When considering they have to, they'll go online to find a coach or plan to drive. And dare I say it, most of the UK population have never even heard of FlyBe. The marketing always was terrible.
I also hold 'us' the public in contempt for wanting everyyhing for next to nothing and believing that certain low cost carriers provide as such.
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Originally Posted by SOPS
I don’t know why it’s made the news in Australia, however it seems that the Administrators are applying to start the airline again.
https://www.mondaq.com/uk/aviation/6...landing-slots-
Originally Posted by SOPS
I don’t know why it’s made the news in Australia, however it seems that the Administrators are applying to start the airline again.
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Originally Posted by PC767
Also it no longer makes sense to fly most domestic routes. I gave up on the BA Man-Lhr route whilst I a small advantage of working for BA. The airport and baggage, even hand baggage, experience was dreadful. Arriving 2 hours prior to a scheduled 40 minute flight also makes little sense. With planning I often booked first class on the train for a similar price, and had a much better experience.
I also hold 'us' the public in contempt for wanting everything for next to nothing and believing that certain low cost carriers provide as such.
I also hold 'us' the public in contempt for wanting everything for next to nothing and believing that certain low cost carriers provide as such.
The public don't want air travel for "next to nothing", this is only an excuse by those whose aviation employers squander their resource in various ways, such as selling a seat next to you at a quarter of the price you have paid. How annoying that is when you chat and find out.
Last edited by WHBM; 10th Feb 2023 at 13:14.
