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Old 28th Jan 2023, 05:00
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Flybe again

Reports that Flybe has ceased trading on BBC
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Old 28th Jan 2023, 05:26
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Originally Posted by SimonPaddo
Reports that Flybe has ceased trading on BBC

this is sad news for all the staff
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Old 28th Jan 2023, 06:43
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Let's hope there won't be a third flybe.
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Old 28th Jan 2023, 07:48
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Don't tell him Pike
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Old 28th Jan 2023, 08:15
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Yep.

surely itís dead dead dead this time
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Old 28th Jan 2023, 08:44
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I hope the employees find alternative work quickly. Fortunately a number of other operators are recruiting.
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Old 28th Jan 2023, 08:53
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Very sad. Echo the comments above in hoping the employees find a new employer soon, without too much disruption.
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Old 28th Jan 2023, 09:07
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Shambles from Day 1
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Old 28th Jan 2023, 09:54
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Seems very sudden, I didnít hear any murmurs of this on the grapevine.

How much will the hedge fund that created Flybe#2 be able to sell the assets and slots for. Will they make a profit overall?
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Old 28th Jan 2023, 10:00
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Very sudden, they were making new job offers only this week for March and April start dates
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Old 28th Jan 2023, 10:20
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Virgin Atlantic I believe are recruiting. A350 fleet running on overtime. Although of course to crew a two pilot LH aircraft needs experienced candidates.

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Old 28th Jan 2023, 10:23
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long running thread in Airlines, Airports and Routes:

Flybe-V2
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Old 30th Jan 2023, 10:00
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"The administrator, Interpath Advisory, said Flybe had struggled to withstand a number of shocks since its relaunch last year, but highlighted the late delivery of 17 aircraft from lessors, which severely compromised its efforts to build back capacity and remain competitive."

Who on Earth writes this garbage without first doing some homework and investigation? A quick scan of 'Planespotters' will show that at least 6 aircraft have been moved on to other operators and another tranche (of the original 54 no-less) are being turned into Water Bombers!

"Flybe staff said they were informed the delays were down to the aircraft requiring ďsignificant repair workĒ after they had been recovered from the original Flybe collapse in 2020. Delays were made worse by replacement partsí supply chain problems lengthening the time it took finish repairs, they were told."

Yep, blame the lessors and Maintenance - easy target. Lets face it, up against EZE and RYR with a superior product with the same overheads the business model doesn't make sense.
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Old 31st Jan 2023, 17:04
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Such a shame for the guys and girls going through this all again.
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Old 9th Feb 2023, 13:02
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I don’t know why it’s made the news in Australia, however it seems that the Administrators are applying to start the airline again.
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Old 9th Feb 2023, 18:03
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Originally Posted by RudderTrimZero
I think 4 out of 5 of us new it would end this way. Our regional airline model doesn't work. It's a bloody crying shame it doesn't considering how bad and expensive our railways are. The reason it doesn't work... most people don't even know it's possible to fly from Birmingham to Edinburgh. When considering they have to, they'll go online to find a coach or plan to drive. And dare I say it, most of the UK population have never even heard of FlyBe. The marketing always was terrible.
Also it no longer makes sense to fly most domestic routes. I gave up on the BA Man-Lhr route whilst I a small advantage of working for BA. The airport and baggage, even hand baggage, experience was dreadful. Arriving 2 hours prior to a scheduled 40 minute flight also makes little sense. With planning I often booked first class on the train for a similar price, and had a much better experience.

I also hold 'us' the public in contempt for wanting everyyhing for next to nothing and believing that certain low cost carriers provide as such.
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Old 9th Feb 2023, 20:29
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I donít know why itís made the news in Australia, however it seems that the Administrators are applying to start the airline again.
I think it's just the administrator protecting their valuable slots which are at risk without an Operating Certificate.

https://www.mondaq.com/uk/aviation/6...landing-slots-
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Old 9th Feb 2023, 22:28
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I donít know why itís made the news in Australia, however it seems that the Administrators are applying to start the airline again.
On the other hand, Will This Stir Up The Pot Down There ? may be worth reading by Dash 8 Captains interested in flying in Australia.

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Old 10th Feb 2023, 13:59
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Originally Posted by PC767
Also it no longer makes sense to fly most domestic routes. I gave up on the BA Man-Lhr route whilst I a small advantage of working for BA. The airport and baggage, even hand baggage, experience was dreadful. Arriving 2 hours prior to a scheduled 40 minute flight also makes little sense. With planning I often booked first class on the train for a similar price, and had a much better experience.

I also hold 'us' the public in contempt for wanting everything for next to nothing and believing that certain low cost carriers provide as such.
It is true that UK internal flights have been ruined by a series of internal own goals, not least by making BA domestics at Heathrow (which is still far and away the most significant domestic flow) share all the time consuming security and terminal walking with pax for Athens or Atlanta (some of us remember the old quick-progress specific domestic side of Terminal 1), and likewise dumping the whole domestic flight plan whenever there are flow restrictions at Heathrow in favour of all six of the wintertime half-filled flights to JFK being fully maintained.

The public don't want air travel for "next to nothing", this is only an excuse by those whose aviation employers squander their resource in various ways, such as selling a seat next to you at a quarter of the price you have paid. How annoying that is when you chat and find out.

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Old 10th Feb 2023, 20:24
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(some of us remember the old quick-progress specific domestic side of Terminal 1)
Goodness me I forgot about that old route, whilst it used to queue quite a bit it always moved quickly and the staff were always very friendly.

Assume it was the fact that the passengers were regulars and knew what they were doing.

Always liked the old BMI lounge; filled my pockets with Lindt chocolates to give the family when I got home!
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