USA flights stopped. FAA computer outage.
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USA flights stopped. FAA computer outage.
BREAKING: FAA computer outage causing US flights to be grounded nationwide
Last edited by Senior Pilot; 11th Jan 2023 at 17:11. Reason: Fix hyperlink
Article in The Times.
All US flights grounded after computer glitch
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All US flights grounded after computer glitch
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All flights in the United States have been grounded because of a failure with a government agency’s computer system.
In a statement, the Federal Aviation Administration said: “The FAA is working to restore its notice to air missions [Notam] system. We are performing final validation checks and repopulating the system now. Operations across the national airspace system are affected.”
In a statement, the Federal Aviation Administration said: “The FAA is working to restore its notice to air missions [Notam] system. We are performing final validation checks and repopulating the system now. Operations across the national airspace system are affected.”
Originally Posted by uffington sb
The BBC are saying it’s a glitch in the Notice to Air Missions System.
Do they call NOTAMS that in the states? I thought it was Notice to Airmen.
Do they call NOTAMS that in the states? I thought it was Notice to Airmen.
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The Federal Aviation Administration early Wednesday ordered airlines to pause all domestic departures until 9 a.m. ET, to allow the agency to restore a critical system that alerts pilots and crew to safety advisories and other information for flights.
The agency, which oversees and manages the aviation network in the U.S., said it is working to restore its so-called Notice to Air Missions System. “Operations across the National Airspace System are affected,” the FAA press office said. It said it was performing final checks to get the system back up and running.
The agency, which oversees and manages the aviation network in the U.S., said it is working to restore its so-called Notice to Air Missions System. “Operations across the National Airspace System are affected,” the FAA press office said. It said it was performing final checks to get the system back up and running.
Source: WSJ
FR 24 looks pretty busy if there is a ground stop.
On a more careful look at the detail ... most of them in the air are freighters. UPS, DHL, Prime, FedEx etc. Don't they need NOTAMS ?
On a more careful look at the detail ... most of them in the air are freighters. UPS, DHL, Prime, FedEx etc. Don't they need NOTAMS ?
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Since I live in the States, Notice to Air Missions just does not have the ring to the ears as Notice to Airmen. Between this and the Southwest meltdown, is anyone changing their summer holidays in the United States?
This could mean that flights take off without ten pages for each airport detailing .1° changes to bearings, obstacles 4 feet tall near an airport and a couple of bulbs blown on a Cat 3 installation. This is clearly as big a risk to aviation as the 737Max MCAS events!
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Originally Posted by Consol
This could mean that flights take off without ten pages for each airport detailing .1° changes to bearings, obstacles 4 feet tall near an airport and a couple of bulbs blown on a Cat 3 installation. This is clearly as big a risk to aviation as the 737Max MCAS events!
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On the Twitter (i cannot attach the link), FAA says:
"Update 4: The FAA is making progress in restoring its Notice to Air Missions system following an overnight outage. Departures are resuming at
@EWRairport and @ATLairport due to air traffic congestion in those areas. We expect departures to resume at other airports at 9 a.m. ET."
@EWRairport and @ATLairport due to air traffic congestion in those areas. We expect departures to resume at other airports at 9 a.m. ET."
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13:50Z:
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Update 5: Normal air traffic operations are resuming gradually across the U.S. following an overnight outage to the Notice to Air Missions system that provides safety info to flight crews. The ground stop has been lifted. We continue to look into the cause of the initial problem
The only thing I can guess might have created such a big stink is the regulatory obligation to provide preflight information to the crews. I'm not much of a jailhouse lawyer but these regs come to mind. Read them and kill some brain cells:
FAR Part 91.103(a) 121.539 121.551. 121.601(a)
FAR Part 91.103(a) 121.539 121.551. 121.601(a)
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Originally Posted by Consol
This could mean that flights take off without ten pages for each airport detailing .1° changes to bearings, obstacles 4 feet tall near an airport and a couple of bulbs blown on a Cat 3 installation. This is clearly as big a risk to aviation as the 737Max MCAS events!
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Originally Posted by Consol
This could mean that flights take off without ten pages for each airport detailing .1° changes to bearings, obstacles 4 feet tall near an airport and a couple of bulbs blown on a Cat 3 installation. This is clearly as big a risk to aviation as the 737Max MCAS events!
