Light show between 40 and 30 West
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They would hang still, like a star, then start moving, and change direction. Satellites don’t have fuel enough to sustain that, you can retask a satellite, but no satellite will do what those did.
Whatever it was, I’d like to know.
Have you watched the videos? You are not seeing satellites changing direction under their own power, you are seeing multiple satellites in converging orbits that appear to the naked eye as if they are one. There are currently over 5500 of them, with a further 40,000 planned.
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Have you watched the videos? You are not seeing satellites changing direction under their own power, you are seeing multiple satellites in converging orbits that appear to the naked eye as if they are one. There are currently over 5500 of them, with a further 40,000 planned.
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Have you watched the videos? You are not seeing satellites changing direction under their own power, you are seeing multiple satellites in converging orbits that appear to the naked eye as if they are one. There are currently over 5500 of them, with a further 40,000 planned.
I have seen this phenomena coming back up over Greece / The Balkans heading north west several times over the last couple of years. My initial thoughts were high altitude AWACS aircraft in a racetrack pattern monitoring the situation over Ukraine. Once I'd seen the Starlink explanation about perspective it made total sense. I can understand why some people want there to be a little wonder left in the world (that includes me) but the fact is, advanced alien races won't be sending little brightly lit objects to spam us, like some giant game of intergalactic knock and run :-)
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Spotted them a couple of days back airborne from UAE over Oman FIR. We were at FL330. Managed to click pics and videos as well will post them shortly.
Time UTC 2300+.
Direction of lights - Both east and west bound.
Number of lights - Upto 3 in parallel.
Time UTC 2300+.
Direction of lights - Both east and west bound.
Number of lights - Upto 3 in parallel.
Great video here of the 'lightshow' taken flying east over Oklahoma in the early hours of 18 April. These are all Starlink satellites glinting sunlight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP03_sN4ZmM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP03_sN4ZmM
Not what I've been seeing.
I have yet to see any video evidence of satellites slowing down and/or changing direction. What I have seen is a compelling visual illusion with multiple satellites crossing roughly the same area, fading in and out, which gives the impression that it is one UFO going backwards and forwards. Careful inspection reveals that this is not the case.
Imagine you are watching a road at night from a distance and you see lights crossing your field of view and disappearing, followed by more lights doing the same thing, maybe even coming from the opposite direction. Which is most likely: multiple cars driving in straight lines at constant speed or a single car rushing backwards and forwards at accelerations likely to kill the occupants...?
Imagine you are watching a road at night from a distance and you see lights crossing your field of view and disappearing, followed by more lights doing the same thing, maybe even coming from the opposite direction. Which is most likely: multiple cars driving in straight lines at constant speed or a single car rushing backwards and forwards at accelerations likely to kill the occupants...?
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I have yet to see any video evidence of satellites slowing down and/or changing direction. What I have seen is a compelling visual illusion with multiple satellites crossing roughly the same area, fading in and out, which gives the impression that it is one UFO going backwards and forwards. Careful inspection reveals that this is not the case.
Imagine you are watching a road at night from a distance and you see lights crossing your field of view and disappearing, followed by more lights doing the same thing, maybe even coming from the opposite direction. Which is most likely: multiple cars driving in straight lines at constant speed or a single car rushing backwards and forwards at accelerations likely to kill the occupants...?
Imagine you are watching a road at night from a distance and you see lights crossing your field of view and disappearing, followed by more lights doing the same thing, maybe even coming from the opposite direction. Which is most likely: multiple cars driving in straight lines at constant speed or a single car rushing backwards and forwards at accelerations likely to kill the occupants...?
About 19 minutes into this. Scott is also a pilot having recently gained his PPL.
Here's another...
Remember, since these videos were made, hundreds more starlink have been launched on polar orbits. They are orbiting in multiple directions, not just west to east.
You are not naive, uninformed perhaps but hopefully forum like these will help.
Most of the Starlink satellites are at a 53deg inclined orbit.
This means that they will appear to be tracking north as they approach 53N, then appear to stop and then track south. That's a likely explanation for the "they can't be satellites because they change direction" assumptions.
There are also newer satellites at 43deg inclined orbit, and some polar ones at 97.6deg.
You can see them all here: https://beta.starlink.sx
This means that they will appear to be tracking north as they approach 53N, then appear to stop and then track south. That's a likely explanation for the "they can't be satellites because they change direction" assumptions.
There are also newer satellites at 43deg inclined orbit, and some polar ones at 97.6deg.
You can see them all here: https://beta.starlink.sx
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Looks like on instagram the user "dominicafc84" was able to take a fairly similiar depiction of what I've been seeing. It's a little shorter of what I noticed (the one I've been seeing usually lasts 15 minutes before disappearing). The video might be meteors.
Well, there are some interesting objects out there. A couple of us saw some kind of extremely high speed “space-plane” travelling extremely fast at high altitude with no lights over Baghdad a few weeks ago. ATC weren’t saying anything , but it was visible to several aircraft transiting the FIR. It looked a bit like the X-37B, but I read later it wasn’t launched until a few days later, so it may have been me imagining the shape. There are certainly man made things out there that certain parties are keeping under wraps.
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I certainly don’t claim to have seen any flying saucers but I did see something unusual last autumn. I went outside to watch the ISS pass from west to east, which I sometimes like to do (I have an “app” that can be set to inform me when it will be visible here). It always passes fairly well south of here, so I was concentrating on the southern sky. Whilst out there I also saw various satellites pass. What I took to be another satellite appeared in the south but it was unusual in its direction of travel and very high speed. It was fairly dim, but it headed north north west and passed over me from well south and was gone in not many seconds, moving many times faster than any other satellite I’ve seen. It certainly wasn’t an aircraft. My “app” has a comprehensive library of satellites and other night sky objects but I couldn’t find any information about it. An asteroid maybe?
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