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Old 26th Feb 2022, 19:38
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LH718 MUC ICN turned around a little north of Perm and is returning to MUC.
The only other EU registered passenger flights I can see over Russia are five AY planes and AF into NRT, soon to leave Russian airspace.
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Old 26th Feb 2022, 21:39
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Odd that U.S. and Canada are still allowing Russian airlines to overfly en route to Caribbean eg AZV787 currently over Quebec en route LED to VRA with happy holidaymakers.
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Old 26th Feb 2022, 23:37
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Originally Posted by Max Tow View Post
Odd that U.S. and Canada are still allowing Russian airlines to overfly en route to Caribbean eg AZV787 currently over Quebec en route LED to VRA with happy holidaymakers.
Waiting for their own carriers to get some of their Long Haul routes sorted before closing their airspace to the Russians?
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Old 27th Feb 2022, 00:02
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Originally Posted by nnc0 View Post
Waiting for their own carriers to get some of their Long Haul routes sorted before closing their airspace to the Russians?
Hasn't that already happened, at least with DL & AA?
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Old 27th Feb 2022, 00:10
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Odd that U.S. and Canada are still allowing Russian airlines to overfly en route to Caribbean eg AZV787 currently over Quebec en route LED to VRA with happy holidaymakers.
They, the EU, Nato Countries, Japan, Australia and other asian countries and other countries worldwide should close Airspace, airports. Closing all ports to Russian and their allies Merchant Ships could be effective.

Time to stand up to the demented school bully.


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Old 27th Feb 2022, 04:25
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SEATO? That disappeared a long time ago.
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Old 27th Feb 2022, 08:36
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Denmark is closing down…
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Old 27th Feb 2022, 08:58
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Originally Posted by A319 View Post
Denmark is closing down…
This mornings Aeroflot flight into Copenhagen is still en route.

https://www.flightradar24.com/AFL2658/2af52c2a

Meanwhile, despite Germany's apparent closing of airspace to Russia .. the Aeroflot Moscow to Berlin service is running ...

https://www.flightradar24.com/AFL2568/2af530cf

And cargo still running from DE to Moscow ..

https://www.flightradar24.com/ABW682/2af51dbb
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Old 27th Feb 2022, 09:33
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Germany wil close its airspace for russian a/c today at 3 PM local.
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Old 27th Feb 2022, 10:15
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Anyone know why Biden still won't join in the airspace ban?
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Old 27th Feb 2022, 10:16
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Iceland closes its airspace to Russian a/c

… and bans Russian citizens from entering the country.
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Old 27th Feb 2022, 10:43
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Very soon, Russia is going to have a lot of aircraft sat on the ground with nowhere to go!
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Old 27th Feb 2022, 14:00
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Canada has also just announced an airspace ban for Russian aircraft
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Old 27th Feb 2022, 14:06
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Originally Posted by Atlantic Explorer View Post
Very soon, Russia is going to have a lot of aircraft sat on the ground with nowhere to go!
To be fair, we have all experienced that over the past two years.
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Old 27th Feb 2022, 14:09
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Aeroflot 158 is currently overflying Canada

But more interestingly, Aeroflot 124 a SVO-JFK B777 is currently over Norway and its flightplan crosses Canada enroute to JFK.

So Ottawa's claim of "with immediate effect" is about to be tested.

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Old 27th Feb 2022, 14:48
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Ok, so what happens if Aeroflot pushes onwards and declares emergency at around newfoundland? Nearest suitable vectored, AC confiscated and pax...?
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Old 27th Feb 2022, 15:09
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Originally Posted by Big Pistons Forever View Post
Canada has also just announced an airspace ban for Russian aircraft
Would that include the Ocean, or is that "ICAO protected"?
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Old 27th Feb 2022, 15:53
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SEATO? That disappeared a long time ago.
My bad, typing too fast and thinking too slow. Post edited.
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Old 27th Feb 2022, 16:02
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Originally Posted by voyageur9 View Post
Aeroflot 124 a SVO-JFK B777 ... flightplan crosses Canada enroute to JFK.

So Ottawa's claim of "with immediate effect" is about to be tested.
124 (currently beyond radar range) seems to be threading the strait between Iceland and Greenland. If so, I wonder if it has sufficient fuel to stay off the Newfoundland and Nova Scotia coasts and get to JFK via an oceanic course.
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Old 27th Feb 2022, 16:36
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FR24 says AFL124 is diverting, not yet confirmed where.
Edit: now says back to SVO.
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