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Old 20th Sep 2021, 14:48
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USA opens borders


And airline shares rise
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Old 20th Sep 2021, 14:58
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Will be interesting to see which vaccines are going to be approved - e.g. AstraZeneca is not officially approved in the US...
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Old 20th Sep 2021, 15:48
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Long haul pilots can finally relax their sphincters.........we all can!
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Old 20th Sep 2021, 15:56
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About time! Most of Europe vaccinated to a much higher percentage than the USA. Roll on Canada too (probably have to wait until after the election there).
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Old 20th Sep 2021, 17:33
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Any idea how this will apply to as of yet unvaccinated crew? Will they be unable to enter without proof of double vaccination or would a negative PCR suffice?
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Old 20th Sep 2021, 19:33
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Er, follow the news. Already happened. YYZ immigration has been a mess

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Old 21st Sep 2021, 03:05
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see if it works

thought of a vacation in the US - but very hesitant to book. Will the lifting stay in place,
will the US re-test arriving passengers ? My belief and trust in the stability of rules
has been eroded by corona.
Lifting of the travel ban is a good sign - but it could be re-instated with short notice.
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Old 21st Sep 2021, 09:30
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Not true, was an issue with naming conventions - it’s recognised name is Vaxzevria. Just a paperwork issue…
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Old 21st Sep 2021, 18:01
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Hmm, don't really understand your comment. That vaccine is simply not approved by the US FDA so it will be interesting to see if EU citizens will be allowed to enter having been vaccinated with said vaccine.
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Old 21st Sep 2021, 18:17
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BBC and others are reporting that Anthony Fauci is suggesting it shouldn’t be an issue.
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Old 21st Sep 2021, 21:22
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All vaccines approved by the World Health Organisation will be accepted.
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Old 22nd Sep 2021, 11:25
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And what about crew? I guess it will be in line with Canada, no exemption.
That will be a massive problem for airlines from countries where mandatory vaccination is not possible.
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Old 22nd Sep 2021, 11:52
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Canada customs at airports has been a gong show lately. The US airports I’ve been operating to have been packed which is nice to see, flights are filling up.
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Old 22nd Sep 2021, 12:22
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Why? Airlines already deal with countries requiring Yellow Fever vaccination. Doesn't require mandatory vaccination. Either you volunteer to take the vaccine or you don't fly to destinations that require the vaccine.
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Old 22nd Sep 2021, 18:04
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Flew round trip last week from Seattle to Washington Dulles. Both airports were busy - especially Dulles (although many of the airport shops and restaurants were still closed). SEA to IAD on Sunday the aircraft was packed - few if any empty seats (A319). The return flight on Friday night was just the opposite - maybe 1/3rd full (737-900ER) - although I'm at a complete loss was to what the difference was...
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Old 22nd Sep 2021, 18:50
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Agree, and it won’t affect me yet. Only when there are getting more countries requiring mandatory vaccination I get to fly less to the countries that don’t.
So I really am interested how it will turn out.
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Old 23rd Sep 2021, 03:44
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Destinations requiring vaccines

My airline is removing unvaccinated crews from flights to destinations requiring vaccines. They get paid, but must be available to do other flights, or else forfeit the pay.

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Old 23rd Sep 2021, 06:48
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So when exactly will Canada mandate mandatory covid-vaccines for airline crew?
And when exactly will the usa mandate mandatory covid vaccines for airline crew?
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Old 23rd Sep 2021, 11:34
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Very standard in the US business consulting sector to fly out Sunday evening, do Monday to Thursday with the client, return Thursday evening, do Friday in their own office. Washington DC has this sort of trade more than most destinations.

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It really disappoints me to make this observation, but I believe that AstraZeneca, pioneers with the vaccine, who have a somewhat different corporate business model to other cash-grabbing pharmaceutical companies who followed on, have not greased enough palms (alias campaign contributions) in Washington to achieve this. For fairness, they have had some comparable governmental difficulties across Europe as well, reported in the press at the time.

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Old 23rd Sep 2021, 14:09
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I don’t believe a vaccine mandate will come from the government. There seems to be little appetite for that. United has said all employees must be vaccinated however, and Delta has increased the insurance premiums for unvaccinated employees.
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