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kpd 20th Sep 2021 14:48

USA opens borders
 
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-58621759

And airline shares rise

411A NG 20th Sep 2021 14:58

Will be interesting to see which vaccines are going to be approved - e.g. AstraZeneca is not officially approved in the US...

CW247 20th Sep 2021 15:48

Long haul pilots can finally relax their sphincters.........we all can! :p

Consol 20th Sep 2021 15:56

About time! Most of Europe vaccinated to a much higher percentage than the USA. Roll on Canada too (probably have to wait until after the election there).

chorse 20th Sep 2021 17:33

Any idea how this will apply to as of yet unvaccinated crew? Will they be unable to enter without proof of double vaccination or would a negative PCR suffice?

oceancrosser 20th Sep 2021 19:33

Consol

Er, follow the news. Already happened. YYZ immigration has been a mess

Klauss 21st Sep 2021 03:05

see if it works
 
Hi,
thought of a vacation in the US - but very hesitant to book. Will the lifting stay in place,
will the US re-test arriving passengers ? My belief and trust in the stability of rules
has been eroded by corona.
Lifting of the travel ban is a good sign - but it could be re-instated with short notice.
Thanks

ScepticalOptomist 21st Sep 2021 09:30

411A NG

Not true, was an issue with naming conventions - it’s recognised name is Vaxzevria. Just a paperwork issue…

411A NG 21st Sep 2021 18:01

Hmm, don't really understand your comment. That vaccine is simply not approved by the US FDA so it will be interesting to see if EU citizens will be allowed to enter having been vaccinated with said vaccine.

sbthomas 21st Sep 2021 18:17

BBC and others are reporting that Anthony Fauci is suggesting it shouldn’t be an issue.

inOban 21st Sep 2021 21:22

All vaccines approved by the World Health Organisation will be accepted.

golfyankeesierra 22nd Sep 2021 11:25

And what about crew? I guess it will be in line with Canada, no exemption.
That will be a massive problem for airlines from countries where mandatory vaccination is not possible.

lost_expate 22nd Sep 2021 11:52

Canada customs at airports has been a gong show lately. The US airports I’ve been operating to have been packed which is nice to see, flights are filling up.

keitaidenwa 22nd Sep 2021 12:22

golfyankeesierra

Why? Airlines already deal with countries requiring Yellow Fever vaccination. Doesn't require mandatory vaccination. Either you volunteer to take the vaccine or you don't fly to destinations that require the vaccine.

tdracer 22nd Sep 2021 18:04

Flew round trip last week from Seattle to Washington Dulles. Both airports were busy - especially Dulles (although many of the airport shops and restaurants were still closed). SEA to IAD on Sunday the aircraft was packed - few if any empty seats (A319). The return flight on Friday night was just the opposite - maybe 1/3rd full (737-900ER) - although I'm at a complete loss was to what the difference was...

golfyankeesierra 22nd Sep 2021 18:50

keitaidenwa

Agree, and it won’t affect me yet. Only when there are getting more countries requiring mandatory vaccination I get to fly less to the countries that don’t.
So I really am interested how it will turn out.

Check Airman 23rd Sep 2021 03:44

Destinations requiring vaccines
 
My airline is removing unvaccinated crews from flights to destinations requiring vaccines. They get paid, but must be available to do other flights, or else forfeit the pay.

fox niner 23rd Sep 2021 06:48

So when exactly will Canada mandate mandatory covid-vaccines for airline crew?
And when exactly will the usa mandate mandatory covid vaccines for airline crew?

WHBM 23rd Sep 2021 11:34

tdracer
Very standard in the US business consulting sector to fly out Sunday evening, do Monday to Thursday with the client, return Thursday evening, do Friday in their own office. Washington DC has this sort of trade more than most destinations.

411A NG
It really disappoints me to make this observation, but I believe that AstraZeneca, pioneers with the vaccine, who have a somewhat different corporate business model to other cash-grabbing pharmaceutical companies who followed on, have not greased enough palms (alias campaign contributions) in Washington to achieve this. For fairness, they have had some comparable governmental difficulties across Europe as well, reported in the press at the time.

Check Airman 23rd Sep 2021 14:09

fox niner

I don’t believe a vaccine mandate will come from the government. There seems to be little appetite for that. United has said all employees must be vaccinated however, and Delta has increased the insurance premiums for unvaccinated employees.


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