9-11 flight deck crews salary docked
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Surely the union that the late flight crews belonged to have an opinion on this and a plan to deal with it?
To the managers at UA who dealt with this-have the balls to identify yourselves!
To the managers at UA who dealt with this-have the balls to identify yourselves!
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Regarding my earlier postings on this subject, jdoe was right in reporting the ABC Good Morning America report and I was wrong in lambasting it. My sincere apologies.
The background is this. It was a computer glitch at United which printed out the unfinished flight and some bean counter automatically docked some money off salaries.
Apparently thee of the widows appeared on that ABC morning show after the whole mixup had already been taken care of by United with apparently the checks being in the mail.
ABC never invited a UA spokesman to be on the show, nor did it call the half dozen or so mouthpieces for UA, from VP of public affairs on down. As a former reporter, I know that every news organization has these phone numbers where someone answers be it day or night.
When other news agencies and newspapers called the issue had already been resolved and that's why you don't find anything in print today -- not because they were being kind to UA -- but because it was not true.
Again my apologies to jdoe who went on his best hunch and merely passed on a report.
The background is this. It was a computer glitch at United which printed out the unfinished flight and some bean counter automatically docked some money off salaries.
Apparently thee of the widows appeared on that ABC morning show after the whole mixup had already been taken care of by United with apparently the checks being in the mail.
ABC never invited a UA spokesman to be on the show, nor did it call the half dozen or so mouthpieces for UA, from VP of public affairs on down. As a former reporter, I know that every news organization has these phone numbers where someone answers be it day or night.
When other news agencies and newspapers called the issue had already been resolved and that's why you don't find anything in print today -- not because they were being kind to UA -- but because it was not true.
Again my apologies to jdoe who went on his best hunch and merely passed on a report.
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Before we all become too outraged, is it possible that the payment is calculated by some computer deep in the bowels of UAL headquarters and that nobody thought to tell said computer that the flight was cut short for hitherto well-documented reasons?
Looks like you were right after all KC...
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There may have been legal considerations.
Many years ago when Sirwa went the other way
(undgerground, not in the sky). When I worked for the National Coal Board, there was a policy then that if anyone was killed in an industrial accident in the mine then their salary (we called it wages then) would stop at the moment of death. Now this at first seemd very heavy handed and unfair until it was pointed out that there was every likelyhood of a compensation claim being made and the NCB were required by their lawers to discontinue accruing salary and benefits for the departed.
In general this helped the legal position of both parties and was accepted as standard practice.
I do not pretend to know what the legal arguments were, perhaps one of our dorsal equipped Ppruners would care to elaborate.
Many years ago when Sirwa went the other way
(undgerground, not in the sky). When I worked for the National Coal Board, there was a policy then that if anyone was killed in an industrial accident in the mine then their salary (we called it wages then) would stop at the moment of death. Now this at first seemd very heavy handed and unfair until it was pointed out that there was every likelyhood of a compensation claim being made and the NCB were required by their lawers to discontinue accruing salary and benefits for the departed. In general this helped the legal position of both parties and was accepted as standard practice.
I do not pretend to know what the legal arguments were, perhaps one of our dorsal equipped Ppruners would care to elaborate.
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For merchant seamen, in the event that their ship sank, no matter how many days the ship had been at sea, the crew received no wages for the uncompleted voyage; nor did the families of those who didn't survive receive any back pay. When I saw the original post I thought that this was a continuation of the tradition. I'm relieved that it was a mix-up.
If any present or former merchant navy crew see this, perhaps they could confirm if the old tradition is still practiced?
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If any present or former merchant navy crew see this, perhaps they could confirm if the old tradition is still practiced?
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Through difficulties to the cinema
