Brexit and the Aviation industry
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so unless you put it in December one would assume it’s with the NAA.
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UPDATE: All complete transfer applications received by 1 October 2020 (the CAA’s published recommended submission date) have been processed and sent to the receiving NAA. Applications submitted after that date will continue to be processed in strict date order on a reasonable endeavours basis as they will be subject to the receiving NAA accepting the application. We are currently working on new applications received in early December 2020.
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So who was advising on the Government on the agreement? Because that reads as if the CAA had little Input into the workings of it.
While the agreements involve some elements of continuity, they do not constitute a replication of the UK’s regulatory arrangements as part of the EASA/EU framework and many sections of the aviation and aerospace industries will face changes after 31 December, as this microsite sets out.
We will study the detail of the new agreements and will update relevant pages of the microsite as information becomes clearer about how the new arrangements will work in practice. We will notify stakeholders of the updates through the SkyWise alert system. If you haven’t already done so, please subscribe to the EU exit category in the SkyWise system: skywise.caa.co.uk
We will study the detail of the new agreements and will update relevant pages of the microsite as information becomes clearer about how the new arrangements will work in practice. We will notify stakeholders of the updates through the SkyWise alert system. If you haven’t already done so, please subscribe to the EU exit category in the SkyWise system: skywise.caa.co.uk
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You're not the only one. I got quite animated about it in a letter to my MP (Tory) a couple of years ago. I still have the reply that assured me that the UK would be remaining in EASA and there was nothing for me to worry about. Another letter will be winging its way to her as soon as the xmas cheer has worn off. 
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I submitted in mid October when offered the job. Using the CAA's automated service the application is still showing as 'pended' with no record of dispatch. Two colleagues submitted around the same time are showing the same. I have been unable to contact anybody at the CAA or IAA as both offices are closed until the 4th Jan. if anyone can help with a more direct contact please let me know.
I submitted in mid October when offered the job. Using the CAA's automated service the application is still showing as 'pended' with no record of dispatch. Two colleagues submitted around the same time are showing the same. I have been unable to contact anybody at the CAA or IAA as both offices are closed until the 4th Jan. if anyone can help with a more direct contact please let me know.
LPV to go
Another little corollary of this Brexit wheeze is that LPV approaches will be withdrawn in the UK as we didn't negotiate remaining part of EGNOS. LNAV and LNAV+VNAV are unaffected.
Flyer magazine put something out a week or so ago then a statement came out from the government saying they had not managed to negotiate a deal. The CAA don't seem to think that's a problem in their statements but the gov.uk publication seems pretty firm in its warning to industry. Bit of a retrograde step?
Flyer magazine put something out a week or so ago then a statement came out from the government saying they had not managed to negotiate a deal. The CAA don't seem to think that's a problem in their statements but the gov.uk publication seems pretty firm in its warning to industry. Bit of a retrograde step?
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What utter nonsense! You obviously haven't read thegov.uk document properly, and/or don't understand how LPV works. We no longer are involved in the development of EGNOS, and UK companies after July will not have access to the SoL and Data services, which have nothing to do with LPV. So as per the CAA's notice, LPV approaches are unaffected.
I am getting fed up of all the Chicken Littles running around shrieking that the sky is falling....
I am getting fed up of all the Chicken Littles running around shrieking that the sky is falling....
I think you might not understand the impact of losing EWA. Without one in place, you don't get to have an LPV. Sure it technically works without an EWA (you can receive the signal) but Jeppesen et al will remove the minima / code and the FAS from the Nav data in the next update/AIRAC beyond the date specified in the gov.uk document (Jun 21).
Flyer article
FLYER asked the CAA what would happen if the UK failed to negotiate access to the EGNOS service. The full reply is:
“Subject to the outcome of the ongoing negotiations, we believe that the European Satellite Services Provider (ESSP) will terminate EGNOS Working Agreements (EWA) with aerodromes, affecting the provision of LPV operations. These will then be NOTAM’d as Not Available. The LNAV or LNAV/VNAV operating minima are unaffected.
“Following termination of the EWA, UK aerodromes will not be supported by the certified service provider/ANSP, i.e. ESSP, although we understand that the signal-in-space will still be received by avionics equipment.
“The CAA is not expecting pilots to disable EGNOS within the equipment and indeed, on some models such an action may not be straight forward.
“The CAA is therefore content to let the avionics box select the highest integrity approach mode available, but any approach should only be flight-planned and flown to the LNAV minima. LPV operations are not available.”
Flyer article
FLYER asked the CAA what would happen if the UK failed to negotiate access to the EGNOS service. The full reply is:
“Subject to the outcome of the ongoing negotiations, we believe that the European Satellite Services Provider (ESSP) will terminate EGNOS Working Agreements (EWA) with aerodromes, affecting the provision of LPV operations. These will then be NOTAM’d as Not Available. The LNAV or LNAV/VNAV operating minima are unaffected.
“Following termination of the EWA, UK aerodromes will not be supported by the certified service provider/ANSP, i.e. ESSP, although we understand that the signal-in-space will still be received by avionics equipment.
“The CAA is not expecting pilots to disable EGNOS within the equipment and indeed, on some models such an action may not be straight forward.
“The CAA is therefore content to let the avionics box select the highest integrity approach mode available, but any approach should only be flight-planned and flown to the LNAV minima. LPV operations are not available.”
NI & Gib?
Can anyone tell if the EWA termination would also concern approaches in Northern-Ireland and Gibraltar?
p.s. Noticed currently there's no LPV in either, still curious if there could be
p.s. Noticed currently there's no LPV in either, still curious if there could be
Last edited by janrein; 2nd Jan 2021 at 02:22. Reason: Addition of p.s.
The Flyer article certainly suggests this is more of a deal than some on here are suggesting. Increasing minimums by 50% and potentially reducing the likelihood of more instrument approaches can hardly be spin doctored as a good thing. Another article in AOPA UK's December issue left me with the impression that the UK has a lot less LPV approaches than elsewhere in Europe and that the CAA is not very enthusiastic about them.