Brexit and the Aviation industry
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Might want to have a read at this.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/uk-invol...pace-programme
Might want to have a read at this.
Nevertheless, the main objective of the EGNOS SoL service is to support civil aviation operations down to Localizer Performance with Vertical guidance (LPV).
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If I understand well, from 1st April 2021 a holder of an EASA license can apply for a UK CAA national license. The process is not yet defined, but does anybody know if one needs a new initial class 1 medical issued by the UK CAA?
Will the UK CAA recognise proficiency checks on the EASA license or would one need to do two proficiency checks?
Probably still uncharted territory.
Will the UK CAA recognise proficiency checks on the EASA license or would one need to do two proficiency checks?
Probably still uncharted territory.
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Not going to discuss LVP and EGNOS in detail but what I am flabbergasted to see how unprepared the UK authorities are/were regarding the Brexit consequences. They had 3 years to figure out a plan , got some deal approved in the last hours before the deadline, with hundreds of subjects left open ( like the financial services ) or stones unturned like this one .
If sounds just like you own an apartment in a building then suddenly decide you do not want to pay the charges anymore, but do not tell the tenants of the consequences, and now they complain they can no longer access the elevator or leave your garbage out.
EGNOS and Galileo cost the EU taxpayer a lot of money .Now the UK decided to leave the EU and made clear what they will not fund or participate anymore on those projects , . That is very sad but do not expect to get all the full benefits afterwards for free .
The list unfortunately will not stop with EGNOS or Galileo I fear. The mere fact to have withdrawn for Erasmus and that the UK top research departments of companies will no longer be allowed to bid on the most advanced European programs if they are funded by the EU ( and almost all are) will have a profound effect on the UK (aviation) industry in 10-15 years from now...
If sounds just like you own an apartment in a building then suddenly decide you do not want to pay the charges anymore, but do not tell the tenants of the consequences, and now they complain they can no longer access the elevator or leave your garbage out.
EGNOS and Galileo cost the EU taxpayer a lot of money .Now the UK decided to leave the EU and made clear what they will not fund or participate anymore on those projects , . That is very sad but do not expect to get all the full benefits afterwards for free .
The list unfortunately will not stop with EGNOS or Galileo I fear. The mere fact to have withdrawn for Erasmus and that the UK top research departments of companies will no longer be allowed to bid on the most advanced European programs if they are funded by the EU ( and almost all are) will have a profound effect on the UK (aviation) industry in 10-15 years from now...
Copy and paste from Skywise.
Following the UK exit from the European Union, the European Geostationary Navigation Overlay Service (EGNOS) will continue to be available for LPV operations, post 01 January 2021 and until further notice. This affects the use of Satellite Based Augmentation Systems (SBAS) at aerodromes with LPV lines of aerodrome operating minima displayed on their RNP Approach […]
Following the UK exit from the European Union, the European Geostationary Navigation Overlay Service (EGNOS) will continue to be available for LPV operations, post 01 January 2021 and until further notice. This affects the use of Satellite Based Augmentation Systems (SBAS) at aerodromes with LPV lines of aerodrome operating minima displayed on their RNP Approach […]
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Only if dry leased (without crew). For wet lease the rules are different, EU carriers can only wet lease from EU carriers, UK carriers can wet lease from UK and EU carriers.
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One small thing I'll add is that an EU carrier can actually wet-lease from a non-EU one, but only when there's no equivalent aircraft offered by an EU operator. Which will not be the case for the foreseeable future, I think. There are gazillions of aircraft of all kinds rusting on the ground everywhere.
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That will be a change of UK law to change it. It is a sodding pain in the arse for all UK operators. As an engineer, it does put additional pressure on what we think and can do, certainly if the aircraft is tech without MEL recourse. It should not but does. However it will be a change of law and I do not expect to see the Tories change it.
In terms of inefficiency how can one expect the not fit for purpose CAA to be anything other than unprepared for the consequences of Brexit. Like every other UK sacred cow that we are being continually assured - NHS anyone? - that are world beating. The sad truth and it is time that we had some self realisation is that we really are not as clever as we think.
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What has control of your borders to do with EASA licenses ? Anyway the UK had always full control of its borders as it was not part of Schengen , only loophole was the Northern Ireland border , but which was there to guarantee you peace in the area via the good Friday agreement..
The UK could have easily stayed in EASA even after Brexit .
The UK could have easily stayed in EASA even after Brexit .
Copy and paste from one of many online journals.
Being a member of the European Aviation Safety Agency is not compatible with the UK having genuine economic and political independence,” said a DfT spokesperson in a written statement. “We will maintain world-leading safety standards for the industry, with the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) taking over these responsibilities and will continue to work with colleagues in the EU to establish a new regulatory relationship.”
I have no idea what this means!
Being a member of the European Aviation Safety Agency is not compatible with the UK having genuine economic and political independence,” said a DfT spokesperson in a written statement. “We will maintain world-leading safety standards for the industry, with the Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) taking over these responsibilities and will continue to work with colleagues in the EU to establish a new regulatory relationship.”
I have no idea what this means!
I'm looking forward to the feedback from those posters who have said they will take their MPs (Conservative, obviously) to task for having assured them during the Leave campaign that the UK would remain in EASA.