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Old 22nd Jul 2020, 09:04
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Ethiopian Airlines’ Boeing 777F (ET-ARH) on fire

At Shanghai Pudong International Airport

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Wow. A graphic illustration of Dangerous Goods perhaps?

Thank goodness it happened on the ground.

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A couple of videos
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How about we wait for the investigation before assuming that the cause was dangerous goods. Dangerous goods was the assumption for the fire in the Air China A330 in Beijing last year. Except that it wasn't.
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It looks similar to their 787 fire at Heathrow that was caused by Lithium batteries.
Bad luck for a fairly small airline.
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Boeing and Ethiopian.. Doesn't seem to fit very well these last few years. Good thing that apparently nobody was hurt this time, just another write off.
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DGR. What was the cause of the Beijing fire?
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How about we wait for the investigation before assuming that the cause was dangerous goods. Dangerous goods was the assumption for the fire in the Air China A330 in Beijing last year. Except that it wasn't.
Theres just a really good chance it is.
its a rumor site, let people have their say, don’t be so eager to shoot someone down.
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The fire appears to be most intense near the cargo door area where there would be plenty of airflow to feed it, and there is extensive damage further forward along the fuselage. Difficult to say at this stage where it broke out, it could have been towards the centre and spread backwards with the flames intensifying once they met the open air, or it could have been at the door and worked forwards. Obviously the cargo is burning, the initial ignition source isn't known yet. Dangerous goods is a strong possibility, as is malfunctioning loading equipment or a carelessly discarded cigarette butt.

Always take fire warnings seriously, I hope the crew weren't sitting there thinking exhaust fumes from the ground equipment were giving them a false indication.
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Originally Posted by dixi188
It looks similar to their 787 fire at Heathrow that was caused by Lithium batteries.
Bad luck for a fairly small airline.
I wouldn't call ETH fairly small....
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Originally Posted by DGR
How about we wait for the investigation before assuming that the cause was dangerous goods. Dangerous goods was the assumption for the fire in the Air China A330 in Beijing last year. Except that it wasn't.
Notice that I put a question mark after my remark, so I wasn't assuming, or stating, I was wondering. I will add the word 'perhaps'.

If you were with friends in the pub or at a family do and somebody brought this (or any) incident up, would you say "No, we cannot talk about this or speculate until we have seen the official report"?

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DGR. What was the cause of the Beijing fire?
The final report is still awaited, so any assertions as to what did or didn't cause the fire are simply speculation.
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But DGR stated quite categorically it wasn't freight dangerous goods. I guess some thought they had information more than based on rumour. Perhaps they don't.
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Id be staggered if that not a lithium battery incident, knowing the flow of electronic equipment from china, and knowing that the 777 is a great aeroplane

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Old 22nd Jul 2020, 13:48
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Facts?

The fire started ~4 hours after arrival in Shanghai
16:57L smoke was observed
... FD "responded and extinguished the fire by about 17:01L" (~4 minutes later they responded or had it put out?)
no injuries reported

original source: unknown
was just published on AVH

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Landscape video, at last!
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Old 22nd Jul 2020, 17:40
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Folks are speculating that it was batteries, why would an inbound flight to Shanghai from Brussels be bringing in Lithium batteries?
Missed the departure bit.
[QUOTEAn Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 777-200 freighter, registration ET-ARH performing flight ET-3739 from Shanghai Pudong (China) to Addis Ababa (Ethiopia), was preparing for departure at the apron, when at about 15:57L (07:57Z) smoke was observed from the aft crown of the aircraft, emergency services responded and extinguished the fire by about 17:01L (09:01Z). No injuries are being reported. The aircraft sustained substantial damage.
][/QUOTE]

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Old 22nd Jul 2020, 18:15
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It could have been unloaded and this is export cargo
could be inbound batteries to be fitted to something and re exported

these batteries are overwhelmingly made in places like china,
the stuff we send there is specialist stuff,
alot more likely to have been correctly checked and processed
so i still say its an export and batteries,
thank god it wasnt in the air
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On the 'landscape' video I see another aircraft on approach at about 0:08 into the clip; must be a heck of an RFF setup!
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Originally Posted by Longtimer
Originally Posted by Ray_Y
The fire started ~4 hours after arrival in Shanghai
...why would an inbound flight to Shanghai from Brussels be bringing in Lithium batteries?
Think again ​​​​​​
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