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scr1 22nd Jul 2020 09:04

Ethiopian Airlines’ Boeing 777F (ET-ARH) on fire
 
At Shanghai Pudong International Airport

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Uplinker 22nd Jul 2020 09:12

Wow. A graphic illustration of Dangerous Goods perhaps?

Thank goodness it happened on the ground.

Hogger60 22nd Jul 2020 09:27



A couple of videos

DGR 22nd Jul 2020 10:11

How about we wait for the investigation before assuming that the cause was dangerous goods. Dangerous goods was the assumption for the fire in the Air China A330 in Beijing last year. Except that it wasn't.

dixi188 22nd Jul 2020 10:20

It looks similar to their 787 fire at Heathrow that was caused by Lithium batteries.
Bad luck for a fairly small airline.

Denti 22nd Jul 2020 10:23

Boeing and Ethiopian.. Doesn't seem to fit very well these last few years. Good thing that apparently nobody was hurt this time, just another write off.

Onions 22nd Jul 2020 10:38

DGR. What was the cause of the Beijing fire?

Enos 22nd Jul 2020 11:03


Originally Posted by DGR (Post 10843364)
How about we wait for the investigation before assuming that the cause was dangerous goods. Dangerous goods was the assumption for the fire in the Air China A330 in Beijing last year. Except that it wasn't.

Theres just a really good chance it is.
its a rumor site, let people have their say, don’t be so eager to shoot someone down.

krismiler 22nd Jul 2020 11:14

The fire appears to be most intense near the cargo door area where there would be plenty of airflow to feed it, and there is extensive damage further forward along the fuselage. Difficult to say at this stage where it broke out, it could have been towards the centre and spread backwards with the flames intensifying once they met the open air, or it could have been at the door and worked forwards. Obviously the cargo is burning, the initial ignition source isn't known yet. Dangerous goods is a strong possibility, as is malfunctioning loading equipment or a carelessly discarded cigarette butt.

Always take fire warnings seriously, I hope the crew weren't sitting there thinking exhaust fumes from the ground equipment were giving them a false indication.

Smoketrails 22nd Jul 2020 11:53


Originally Posted by dixi188 (Post 10843371)
It looks similar to their 787 fire at Heathrow that was caused by Lithium batteries.
Bad luck for a fairly small airline.

I wouldn't call ETH fairly small....

Uplinker 22nd Jul 2020 12:00


Originally Posted by DGR (Post 10843364)
How about we wait for the investigation before assuming that the cause was dangerous goods. Dangerous goods was the assumption for the fire in the Air China A330 in Beijing last year. Except that it wasn't.

Notice that I put a question mark after my remark, so I wasn't assuming, or stating, I was wondering. I will add the word 'perhaps'.

If you were with friends in the pub or at a family do and somebody brought this (or any) incident up, would you say "No, we cannot talk about this or speculate until we have seen the official report"?

DaveReidUK 22nd Jul 2020 12:52


Originally Posted by Onions (Post 10843386)
DGR. What was the cause of the Beijing fire?

The final report is still awaited, so any assertions as to what did or didn't cause the fire are simply speculation.

Stick Flying 22nd Jul 2020 13:20

But DGR stated quite categorically it wasn't freight dangerous goods. I guess some thought they had information more than based on rumour. Perhaps they don't.

j4ckos mate 22nd Jul 2020 13:34

Id be staggered if that not a lithium battery incident, knowing the flow of electronic equipment from china, and knowing that the 777 is a great aeroplane


Ray_Y 22nd Jul 2020 13:48

Facts?

The fire started ~4 hours after arrival in Shanghai
16:57L smoke was observed
... FD "responded and extinguished the fire by about 17:01L" (~4 minutes later they responded or had it put out?)
no injuries reported

original source: unknown
was just published on AVH

Capn Bloggs 22nd Jul 2020 14:13

Landscape video, at last! :D

Longtimer 22nd Jul 2020 17:40

Ray_Y

Folks are speculating that it was batteries, why would an inbound flight to Shanghai from Brussels be bringing in Lithium batteries?
Missed the departure bit.
[QUOTEAn Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 777-200 freighter, registration ET-ARH performing flight ET-3739 from Shanghai Pudong (China) to Addis Ababa (Ethiopia), was preparing for departure at the apron, when at about 15:57L (07:57Z) smoke was observed from the aft crown of the aircraft, emergency services responded and extinguished the fire by about 17:01L (09:01Z). No injuries are being reported. The aircraft sustained substantial damage.
][/QUOTE]

j4ckos mate 22nd Jul 2020 18:15

It could have been unloaded and this is export cargo
could be inbound batteries to be fitted to something and re exported

these batteries are overwhelmingly made in places like china,
the stuff we send there is specialist stuff,
alot more likely to have been correctly checked and processed
so i still say its an export and batteries,
thank god it wasnt in the air

White Knight 22nd Jul 2020 18:16

On the 'landscape' video I see another aircraft on approach at about 0:08 into the clip; must be a heck of an RFF setup!

Ray_Y 22nd Jul 2020 18:33


Originally Posted by Longtimer (Post 10843667)

Originally Posted by Ray_Y
The fire started ~4 hours after arrival in Shanghai

...why would an inbound flight to Shanghai from Brussels be bringing in Lithium batteries?

Think again :rolleyes:​​​​​​


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