Drug smuggling jet downed in Mexico ?

[172driver]

On a more general note, this article makes for interesting reading:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...e/?arc404=true

PS: you may have to register to read it.

[toratoratora]

Originally Posted by Aso

Build like a tank and readily available... Cant blame them

Also quite capable of operating from rough strips, and even grass ( no pun intended! )

[nonsense]

Originally Posted by 172driver

On a more general note, this article makes for interesting reading:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...e/?arc404=true

PS: you may have to register to read it.

Clear any WaPo cookies. You then get two articles for free.
If you block cookies, it won't work, unless you first view one but only one article. then you're good to read indefinitely.

[keesje]

I'm amazed by the scale of these smugler jet operations going on in this area.

Seen overviews, the frequencies of incident / accidents of this events .

Who are these pilots ? Apparently there is no short supply of business jets, Gulfstreams, 125's, Citations or restrictions buying them..

You Tube

https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/d...finds-10249767

[DaveReidUK]

As the old saying goes, just follow the money.

[Diverskii]

Raymond Boulanger did an excellent two hour long interview with Mikey McBrian of (Buffalo Airways fame) on Mikey's youtube channel recently.

He talks about all of his flying, starting with the CIA/Air America type stuff and moving swiftly in to the flying of valuable cargos in south america. Absolutely fascinating stuff!

His flying was back in the 80s/90s but it looks like things haven't changed much - get your hands on a load of cheap jets and ditch them where you land. Doesn't matter as long as you get the cargo out and on to the waiting trucks.

[JanetFlight]

Wow....Diverskii...tanx for saving my boring night alone at home...amazing!!!

You Tube

[cappt]

Yes that was a great interview but you have to really listen up and pay attention because he such a non-nonchalant soft speaker you might miss something. One story he flew a Convair from Bogota to Nova Scotia full of coke (12K over weight) by flying right up the middle of the Atlantic only to be met by a pair of F18's who subsequently run low on fuel and have to RTB, he flies on.
I'm kinda torn about it all, very interesting flying stuff but I'm sure it left a trail of human destruction along the way.

[lomapaseo]

Originally Posted by keesje

I'm amazed by the scale of these smugler jet operations going on in this area.

Seen overviews, the frequencies of incident / accidents of this events .

Who are these pilots ? Apparently there is no short supply of business jets, Gulfstreams, 125's, Citations or restrictions buying them..

https://youtu.be/w5zuUt9Xdmc

https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/d...finds-10249767

was that buzzing noise at the end a police plane chasing after it?

[oceancrosser]

Chopper. Can be seen momentarily towards the end.

[Flying Clog]

Probably the 'boss' monitoring the take off.

[lomapaseo]

or ATC if they have a lot of shipments

[keesje]

It was local militairy UH-1. A local airforce pilot is flying out the abandoned aircraft to civilized place.

Getting the origiins / history of this Bae-125 jet should be pretty easy,

Of course the XB-RCM registration is fake, but serial numbers everywhere.

Twitter

Someone bought it into it's illegal status in the US. Where did it depart from? there must be a flight plan etc.

Also it's whereabouts before they pulled the transponder..


Intriguing un dated photo.. already with the fake registration.


Just did quick research you can buy a flyable (dependent on requirements) 40 yr old 125 for $400k
https://www.avbuyer.com/aircraft/pri...ft/700a/357343
If you are shipping 10 mln worth of powder etc. & pay a crew $100k..

[DaveReidUK]

Originally Posted by keesje

Of course the XB-RCM registration is fake, but serial numbers everywhere.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1279877912267759629

Someone bought it into it's illegal status in the US.

https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/8674939

[EDLB]

I find it hard to believe that the Mexican Gov. forced a jet to land with a helicopter. Shoot it down with an air to air missile is possible, but the jet shows no signs of a missile attack. So most likely they had a dual engine failure and had to make a forced landing. That ground transportation for the crew and load was available on short notice adds to that. The Mexican Airforce has currently no assets with jet speed.

[keesje]

You seem to be right . No a single interceptor / sidewinder to be found. A few aging F5 have been retired / grounded.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexica...rent_inventory

A huge country with 120 mln people & (official) $1200B GPD.

If you have money, buy a 40 yr old BAE125 /G II in the US & nobody can catch you.

And it's happening on a big scale.

Obviously I don't understand / know. Is it blocked / frustrated by interest groups?

A democratic state like Mexico should be sovereign in their air space.

Get them some F16 / M2000 / Mig29s and radar stations..

I know, far too simple / complicated.

[aerolearner]

Originally Posted by Diverskii

Raymond Boulanger did an excellent two hour long interview with Mikey McBrian of (Buffalo Airways fame) on Mikey's youtube channel recently.

Great video, thanks!
I enjoyed every minute of it.

[fisher22]

Sadly, this is business as usual in Mexico.

Read a couple of news articles about the incident and apparently the plane took off from Venezuela with no flight plan and transponder turned off and was picked up by Mexican radar before crossing the border, two Mexican Air Force E-145 AWACS were scrambled as well as a T-6 Texan which ultimately ended up intercepting the plane and tried making radio contact with them to no avail. Also says visual signs were used by the MAF pilot but ignored by the HS125 crew, which ended up landing on a highway where they had a truck waiting for them, set the plane on fire and fled. Also they mention a helicopter was deployed but only after the plane had already landed. Crew apparently ditched the truck and ran into the jungle before authorities arrived.

Here's one of the source articles in Spanish:

https://www.milenio.com/politica/asi...trello-en-qroo

[Ray_Y]

I don't get it:
They were shot and had to go down somewhere on a highway - and then a truck was ready to take the "cargo"? Too much of a coincidence.

[EEngr]

What I found interesting is that they had a van and personnel on the ground available on short notice to pick up the merchandise. That says something about the cartel's size and organization.