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Old 4th Jun 2020, 21:41
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Government - Airline Call from BBC

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/worl...ost_type=share
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Old 4th Jun 2020, 22:00
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I'm still curious to know what happens if you return to an airport before 14 days are up for a direct flight home. If one is fit to fly you then cease to be the UK's problem. Surely they wouldn't make you stay.
The rules I have seen for essential workers have been told they can leave before the 14 days are up.
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Old 5th Jun 2020, 17:38
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Itís being suggested that the Quarantine is part of a bigger play in the Brexit negotiations.
Not sure whether that is a clever strategy to deter UK citizens holidays to Spain,France etc.
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Old 5th Jun 2020, 17:44
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So no inbound tourism and hurting UK based businesses the most. Genius plan. How many feet does the uk have to shoot itself in???
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Old 5th Jun 2020, 17:50
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There are already major restrictions on entering France and Spain that will I suspect have already deterred many Brits from taking holidays in those countries this summer.
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Old 6th Jun 2020, 07:57
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- It has been a long time since the UK government has done nothing approaching 'clever', let alone had a strategy.
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Old 6th Jun 2020, 08:08
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Not seen this get a mention? And didn't Greece also find positive cases on a flight from Australia?

Flight - Greece halts Qatar flights after positive Covid-19 tests
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Old 6th Jun 2020, 09:20
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How many feet does the uk have to shoot itself in???
Is this one of those trick questions, like "How many children does Johnson have?"
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Old 6th Jun 2020, 11:27
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Just received Border Measures Aviation document effective Monday. Itís a bit of a tome, but Iíll just throw out two things.

1. ē The regulations permit departure from England within 14 days of arrival.
ē Crew who arrive as passengers for commuting purposes are not considered
to be travelling in the course of their work. (and so must self isolate on arrival).

2. There is an online contact form which must be filled in prior to arrival (no earlier than 48hrs). And must be completed for every arrival.

ď Crew are not exempt from the requirement to complete the passenger locator form and they must complete a form for every trip to England, whether travelling as a passenger or crew.Ē

This doc arrived at the airline (and presumably all airlines ) late last night

ps donít shoot the messenger!
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Old 6th Jun 2020, 12:28
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Understandably, as a mainly British site, there is focus on our government and as a primarily civil aviation site there is a focus on pilot and CC jobs.
But there are also a lot of blinkers on as well. Just looking at 3 other Commonwealth counties, NZ, Aus and Canada. All are closed to business and tourist visitors and all require 14 days isolation.

NZ has been hailed as an example of how to handle this crisis.
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Old 6th Jun 2020, 15:24
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Further information here.

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...st-once-a-week
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Old 8th Jun 2020, 13:04
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Quarantine has been used since before Biblical times to contour infectious diseases and in each instance it was done to prevent the uninfected community being infected by arrivals from infected areas. Should we have had quarantine a few months ago? Yes absolutely and unreservedly.

Should quarantine be introduced today for inbound passengers coming from a relatively disease free area? NO way, it's too late!!!

Other countries have selective quarantine measures and appreciate the dangers of passengers coming from infected areas.

Not too hard to work out, certainly with the grasp of politicians, but then that's debatable. !!
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Old 8th Jun 2020, 13:16
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With the UK population clearly under no kind of meaningful control since Day 1 of Lockdown, a Quarantine of Incomers is now pointless.
The tsunami (2nd wave) will now engulf us, created by our own hand over this past weekend. Or are Gov going to pretend that all the so-called Protesters congregating en masse were all 100% Covid free?
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Old 8th Jun 2020, 15:30
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Having been to the UK as crew many times I privately travelled only once. Had to stand in line for UK immigration for so long, even worse then US CBP, felt like 14 days already...
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Old 8th Jun 2020, 16:04
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With the UK population clearly under no kind of meaningful control since Day 1 of Lockdown
The UK lockdown certainly did not appear anything like as well policed/controlled as it was in some other countries...

And on the subject of controlling the UK Quarantine , from "The Times" this afternoon....:

About 40 flights landed at Heathrow this morning from destinations including the US, Hong Kong, Japan, Canada, Doha, Bahrain, Ethiopia and across Europe.

However, the chaotic introduction of the measures was criticised today. Lucy Moreton, a professional officer at the Immigration Services Union, told the BBC that technical papers explaining what to check for only arrived on Friday and were still not available to many border staff. She insisted there was no system for checking addresses and that only clear rule-breakers would be picked up.

A leaked memo to Border Force officials said that only “manifestly false” information such as an arrival putting down their name as “Mickey Mouse” or their address as “Buckingham Palace” would result in checks.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/a...soar-5pz6hshzp


Colour me surprised....

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Old 24th Jun 2020, 23:25
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14-day Quarantine Exemptions

Good evening all,

Does anybody have more details on the following exemption:

Pilots and crew, as defined in paragraph 1 of Schedule 1 to the Air Navigation Order 2016(h), where such crew have travelled to the UK in the course of their work

You’ll need to complete the Public Health passenger locator form before you travel to the UK. You will not need to self-isolate for 14 days.

You should show a crew badge or ID.

Source: govuk website.

Is commuting/positioning to the UK included in this exemption? Or Will I be required to self-isolate for 14 days upon arrival? Has anybody recently travelled to the UK and is willing to share his/her experience crossing the border?
Will a crew id / license / medical etc be sufficient to cross without having to quarantine?
Some more info, working/living in the UK and currently staying with family in the Netherlands.

Many thanks.

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Old 25th Jun 2020, 06:53
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AFAIK, to paraphrase the rule set we have been given:

Crew member, Base in UK: rostered positioning back to UK at end of block of work you are exempt from self isolation.

Crew member, Base in UK: commuting/travelling back into UK as passenger (including return from overseas holiday for UK resident crew) - you need to self isolate, though you can break this quarantine to travel to work directly to perform company rostered duties only such as sims, operate a flight/trip........

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Old 29th Jun 2020, 08:03
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Hi Wiggy et al,

What about a crew member based overseas (non-EU) only entering the UK to renew a medical, and planning to stay for less than two weeks? Is there anything in the guidance on that?

Asking for a friend.

Well OK asking for myself.

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Old 29th Jun 2020, 11:22
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Hi mac57, you’re obliged to self isolate for 14 days except for the reasons listed on the UK Govt website. Renewing your medical isn’t one of those reasons, so unfortunately you’d have to wait until day 15 to renew (not including your day of arrival).
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Old 29th Jun 2020, 11:28
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I'd say a medical is "in the course of work", certainly if it's on your roster.
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