Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Flight Deck Forums > Rumours & News
Reload this Page >

BBC - Mum bit Swiss pilot in cockpit in 'self-defence'

Rumours & News Reporting Points that may affect our jobs or lives as professional pilots. Also, items that may be of interest to professional pilots.

BBC - Mum bit Swiss pilot in cockpit in 'self-defence'

Old 5th Mar 2020, 15:15
  #21 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Ban Chiang,Thailand
Age: 67
Posts: 191
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
A long sentence should be handed down to punish this arrogant and entitled individual, and to deter others.

Separately both these individuals should be banned from all airlines and from being at or near any UK airport.

SWISS should also be considering civil action against this pair in regard to any losses suffered.
Thaihawk is offline  
Old 5th Mar 2020, 15:44
  #22 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: US
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Well, according to the BBC article this piece of scum received a 4 months suspended sentence. Disgustingly low...
KingAir1978 is offline  
Old 5th Mar 2020, 15:52
  #23 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Benelux
Posts: 347
Likes: 0
Received 14 Likes on 2 Posts
Four months suspended?!! What sort of deterrent is that?
BRUpax is offline  
Old 5th Mar 2020, 16:06
  #24 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Rockytop, Tennessee, USA
Posts: 5,898
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
From an update of the BBC article linked above:

Mitaire was given a four-month sentence suspended for one year after being convicted of assault by beating.

Ms Roberts, of Elswick Street, Imperial Wharf, south-west London, was asked to leave the courtroom when she made a disturbance, shouting: "Adolf Hitler is ruling England! Mussolini is ruling England!"

'You escalated matters'

Judge Wright said: "You behaved in a way that was completely unacceptable and caused significant injury and the whole thing was caused, in effect, because you could not take your buggy on to the plane with you.

"When you were asked to leave the plane, instead of being sensible and saying 'I will make my complaint at a later stage', you escalated matters."

The court heard that the assault caused the following flight to be cancelled.

Judge Wright said: "A significant number of people were inconvenienced and you caused distress to the staff who had to deal with the incident on the day in question."

In a statement, senior crown prosecutor Arlene De Silva described the assault as a "shocking attack on a pilot" and an "unprovoked onslaught" in a "confined space".

Mitaire was also ordered to comply with a tagged curfew at her home address between 19:00 and 07:00 GMT for six months.

She was further ordered to pay 1,500 court costs, a 115 surcharge and 1,000 compensation to Capt Keel - a total of 2,615 - immediately, or serve three months in prison.
Originally Posted by PiggyBack
My prediction is that they will receive suspended sentences because they are women. The effect on children will be mentioned, it will be said that this is an isolated incident and in sentencing the judge will say they are very lucky to avoid jail. The reality is that it is quite hard for a woman to be jailed for violent assault unless she cause very serious injury and sometimes even then.
You called that one right.
Airbubba is offline  
Old 5th Mar 2020, 16:22
  #25 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: UK
Age: 66
Posts: 841
Received 39 Likes on 21 Posts
well she now has home arrest tagged for 6 months curfew 1900-0700 so that screws up her social life - she is a Kensington High St girl lol
rog747 is offline  
Old 5th Mar 2020, 19:58
  #26 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: France
Posts: 527
Received 13 Likes on 7 Posts
This sort of misbehaviour (Miss Behaviour?) should be stamped on. Far too lenient a sentence. A ban on UK-AOC airlines for starters for several years and a lifetime on Swiss might help these 'ladies' consider the consequences of their actions .... at least for a few years' holidays.
Alsacienne is offline  
Old 5th Mar 2020, 21:56
  #27 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Within AM radio broadcast range of downtown Chicago
Age: 71
Posts: 834
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Soundtrack

Interesting parallels, in some aspects of the solemn proceedings at bar, with "Conditional Discharge" and "Don't Try to Lay No Boogie-Woogie on the King of Rock and Roll" (companion song), recorded by John Baldry.
Easily found, enjoyed particularly at "volume".
WillowRun 6-3 is online now  
Old 5th Mar 2020, 23:05
  #28 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: timbuktu
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by PiggyBack
I really hope they both spend some time in jail. We are talking about an argument over staff simply doing their job, followed by an assault on someone who was simply politely seeking to resolve the situation in a reasonable way. The assault resulted in actual injury, albeit minor and then to compound it they have forced a trial with the accompanying costs and inconvenience to all concerned rather than plead guilty.
I think 3 to 6 months in prison are appropriate.

My prediction is that they will receive suspended sentences because they are women. The effect on children will be mentioned, it will be said that this is an isolated incident and in sentencing the judge will say they are very lucky to avoid jail. The reality is that it is quite hard for a woman to be jailed for violent assault unless she cause very serious injury and sometimes even then.
Playing the sexist card? :-) (though I wouldn't necessarily disagree)
marchino61 is offline  
Old 5th Mar 2020, 23:11
  #29 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: timbuktu
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Alsacienne
This sort of misbehaviour (Miss Behaviour?) should be stamped on. Far too lenient a sentence. A ban on UK-AOC airlines for starters for several years and a lifetime on Swiss might help these 'ladies' consider the consequences of their actions .... at least for a few years' holidays.

Many people on here are calling for a custodial sentence, yet it has clearly been shown that short custodial sentences do more harm than good and have little deterrent effect. It means a person loses their job and therefore their livelihood and thus increases the chances of reoffending on release. In addition, it introduces first offenders to hardened criminals and in effect acts as a school for criminality.

I think a tough community service order combined with a home curfew would be the way to go.
marchino61 is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.