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777X set for January 23rd first flight

Old 24th Jan 2020, 17:41
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The winds are no where near acceptable today, I expect they will scrub before they fly.

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Old 24th Jan 2020, 17:44
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Wingtips just unfolding as it lines up ...
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Old 24th Jan 2020, 18:07
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How long do they need!!!!
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Old 24th Jan 2020, 18:11
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About 6,000 feet, I reckon.
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Old 24th Jan 2020, 18:16
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
About 6,000 feet, I reckon.
Yeah alright

LOL
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Old 24th Jan 2020, 18:18
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You better get comfortable, although I can see a few glimpses of blue sky, the rain isn't supposed to lift for at least an hour.

I'm going to be at a sports field near the airport between about noon and 1pm (local time), maybe I'll get lucky
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Old 24th Jan 2020, 18:23
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And you can see how windy it is by the way the static cone on the tail is blowing around.
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Old 24th Jan 2020, 18:36
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
And you can see how windy it is by the way the static cone on the tail is blowing around.
Yea, current weather says 17 knots out of the South (so tail wind for takeoff). Looks like it's supposed to drop off later in the afternoon, but not for a couple hours...
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
And you can see how windy it is by the way the static cone on the tail is blowing around.
Hardly static!
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Old 24th Jan 2020, 19:37
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Why can't they depart off 16 ?
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Old 24th Jan 2020, 19:40
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see tdracers post #4....
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Old 24th Jan 2020, 20:06
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Don't think they're going to do it without really good Metar - can't/ won't risk an RTO/ wing flapping scenario.

Stand down.

Having said that it does look like the weather is brightening up and the sun has come out...

Watching...and it DOES look like a really lovely aircraft...I'd like to fly that.
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Old 24th Jan 2020, 20:33
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Scrubbed for today due to wind.

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Old 24th Jan 2020, 20:58
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Good move.

Try again tomorrow...

(Can't help thinking old John Cashman would have taken her off...Whatever...)

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Old 24th Jan 2020, 22:15
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Originally Posted by Auxtank
Good move.

Try again tomorrow...

(Can't help thinking old John Cashman would have taken her off...Whatever...)
Yep, plan is for ~10am (local time) on Saturday. Weather forecast is more promising - occasional showers and winds out of the south at ~8 knots.

I was there for the original 777 first flight in 1994. The tail wind was fluctuating around the 10 knot limit the whole time - there was some speculation at the time that Cashman was rather selective about which wind reading he was going to use to allow the takeoff.
Today was between 15-20 knots most of the time, so I suspect even Mr. Cashman would have been hard pressed to come up with with a reading that would have made it permissible...
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Old 24th Jan 2020, 22:22
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Light rain and 1 MPH winds at present.
Could be on...




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Old 25th Jan 2020, 12:02
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if I may quote Mr. Cashman:
Despite years of training and planning and preparation for that first 787 flight, the pilots will no doubt encounter the unexpected

"That's what we do," he said. "We find things so our customers don't have to."
This was during his retirement (according to the source seattlepi): After 40 years at Boeing, chief test pilot John Cashman is retiring
Is interesting about what I think we all agree here. Unlike other pieces of hardware and software nowadays, where the design phase 'catches all they can get' and after release the product, so the market starts using it and report back the 'glitches' or 'faults' so fixes are applied later on. There's a small-huge difference on an airplane:
The flight test engineers and test pilots are trained to try, find and correct those glitches and errors. But the common day-by-day pilot may not fall into that category, and when faced with the unknown may react differently.
At that point, the pilots cannot just 'shut down and restart' or stop in the middle of the air to report the glitch to the manufacturer.
As the machines we fly become more sophisticated, there is more things that lies deep buried on the software coding and hardware that is supposed to 'kick-in' at the right time, to save the day. In the past, that hardware was the pilot, and the software was their ability, experience, feeling, etc., right now, well, it seems that the direction is other. Machines that 'automatically' correct, the errors or situations. Until it gets to the point of being 'out-of-the-script', when something happens that is outside that predefined set of 'triggers' and we have to rely again on the pilots.
Is an interesting paradox to think about, when everything is pointing to the point of 'single pilot' crew (save money, maximize profit), completely automated flight (idem)... hell, when machines are operating, who will be responsible if something goes wrong?. Be aware Boeing / Airbus... you will... there will be no more 'pilot error' mentioned on the investigations... will you take the bet?
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Old 25th Jan 2020, 16:11
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Old 25th Jan 2020, 16:25
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The static cone is almost asleep..looking good.

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