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Old 12th Jan 2020, 22:02
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Flybe in trouble ?

If this is true https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.sk...lapse-11907407

Doesnt look good
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Old 12th Jan 2020, 22:17
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Not widely reported at the moment. Anyone else have any reliable news?
Edit: Actually there is a fair bit of Twitter traffic. What awful news. Let's hope they get through.

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Old 12th Jan 2020, 22:24
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https://news.sky.com/story/regional-...lapse-11907407

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/...dministration/
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Old 13th Jan 2020, 03:47
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Being somewhat involved I have to say this has come as a complete shock.
Thinking of all the Flybe family this morning - lots of very good people facing a very difficult day.
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Old 13th Jan 2020, 06:18
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Flybe on Brink of Collapse

Widely reported this morning Flybe on the brink of collapse.
Virgin & Stobart purchased all the Airlines assets exactly 12 months ago and now they are sending the Airline down the river. White collar criminals.
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Old 13th Jan 2020, 07:18
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Well, without the injection of cash from Connect, they would have 'gone down the river', 12 months ago. If the rumours are true perhaps its just not a viable business. Calling them criminals appears to be without foundation and potentially libellous.

For the sake of all the employees and pax with tickets, I hope it works out.
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Old 13th Jan 2020, 07:26
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Been on the cards for a long, long time now. When I left seven years ago they were in trouble and holed below the water line, they plugged it but only temporarily. That said itís a terribly traumatic time for the guys and girls there and I wish them all the best and good luck.
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Old 13th Jan 2020, 07:47
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Flybe tight-lipped over collapse threat https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51089118
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Old 13th Jan 2020, 08:00
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Mate of mine with Blue Island. Would they be in trouble too ?
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Old 13th Jan 2020, 08:01
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I can only draw comparisons with defunct airlines here in Spain, Spanair being just one in a very long list.
Competition comes from not other airlines but from road and rail, which is probably the case now in the United Kingdom.
A flight from Madrid to Barcelona is very quick, 1 hour 15 minutes, however check in and security procedures add on a couple of hours or so. The cost for this flight is around 95 Euros.
For the same cost a seat in a comfortable high speed train will get you there in 2 hours 30 minutes.
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Old 13th Jan 2020, 08:05
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Just to clear that up, competition is not flybe's issue, they operate at near 90% load factors, there flights are full, its debt and financial commitments that are constantly spiraling out of control
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Old 13th Jan 2020, 08:09
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Myself and 5 others were accepted on to the Flybe MPL course at L3 just before Christmas, this is incredibly disappointing to say the least!
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Old 13th Jan 2020, 08:12
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Good luck to all at Flybe in this difficult time. Keeping my fingers crossed for you.

Livesinafield, I am sure that I am not telling you anything new when I say that full flights donít tell the whole story. To get that high load factor they may need to undercut the competition and as a result lose money.
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Old 13th Jan 2020, 08:36
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Gutted to hear this kind of news, both Monarch and Flybe were/are my preferred choices everytime, both damn good airlines and damn good customer services at least at the airports when and if needed. I sing Flybe praises to anybody that thinks of booking with MOL for so many reasons. Just hope you good guys and girls have a good news day. Stay safe.
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Old 13th Jan 2020, 08:48
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Originally Posted by Nil by mouth View Post
For the same cost a seat in a comfortable high speed train will get you there in 2 hours 30 minutes.
There are no high speed, comfortable or even vaguely affordable trains in the UK . . . flying on carriers like flybe is, practically, the only way for many people to travel.
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Old 13th Jan 2020, 08:58
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Originally Posted by fergusd View Post
There are no high speed, comfortable or even vaguely affordable trains in the UK . . . flying on carriers like flybe is, practically, the only way for many people to travel.
The Independent is saying that changes to the train service between Exeter and London have had an adverse effect on flybe.

Demand remains soft, and some competing rail links are improving Ė in southwest England, for example, new rail timetables introduced on GWR a month ago dramatically improved services from Devon to London, damaging the appeal of the Flybe link from Exeter to the capital.
https://www.independent.co.uk/travel...-a9280941.html
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Old 13th Jan 2020, 09:07
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There are no high speed, comfortable or even vaguely affordable trains in the UK . . . flying on carriers like flybe is, practically, the only way for many people to travel.
100% correct! I was looking recently at having to travel from West Oxfordshire to Edinburgh for a 2 day conference. The options were 7 hours and 2 or 3 changes by train - or to drive to BHX and fly with flyBe - which was quicker and cheaper with the guarantee of a seat.
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Old 13th Jan 2020, 09:39
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Originally Posted by BEagle View Post
100% correct! I was looking recently at having to travel from West Oxfordshire to Edinburgh for a 2 day conference. The options were 7 hours and 2 or 3 changes by train - or to drive to BHX and fly with flyBe - which was quicker and cheaper with the guarantee of a seat.
It would have been quicker and, probably, cheaper to drive would it not?
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Old 13th Jan 2020, 09:42
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From the AOL news feed:Flybe bosses have held crunch talks with the Government in a bid to save the airline.

Discussions were held with the Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy (BEIS) and the Department for Transport (DfT) over the weekend to see whether they could provide or facilitate emergency financing, the PA news agency understands.

Around 2,000 people are employed by the airline.

The Exeter-based carrier was bought by a consortium consisting of Virgin Atlantic, Stobart Group and Cyrus Capital in February 2019 following poor financial results.

The consortium, known as Connect Airways, paid just £2.2 million for Flybe's assets but pledged to pump tens of millions of pounds into the loss-making airline to turn it around.
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Old 13th Jan 2020, 09:54
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Sad news, good airline and great people. Fingers crossed.
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