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Cargo Jet makes a 360 at 100’

Old 5th Dec 2019, 02:12
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No magenta lines here. Hand flying, nothing beats it.

In a week where there have been videos of poor decision making below MSA, sadly here’s another one. Accidents just don’t happen, they are caused!
However, this guy knows what he is doing, clearly.
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Old 5th Dec 2019, 02:13
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Originally Posted by rjtjrt View Post
Some years ago he spent nearly 18/12 in a Zimbabwe prison after a 727 flight to Equatorial Guinea was interrupted.
Wasn't Niel [sic] jailed for 17 months in Zim? Or does 'nearly 18/12' mean almost 18 months? I thought he looked familiar in the video.

Here's some background on an earlier thread:

ZIMbobWE seizes US cargo Plane and Mercenaries

I guess doing a circle at 100 feet RA is not the riskiest thing he's done in a plane.

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Old 5th Dec 2019, 04:31
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if I had done that

I would have made left turns!
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Old 5th Dec 2019, 04:32
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Originally Posted by Airbubba View Post
Wasn't Niel [sic] jailed for 17 months in Zim? Or does 'nearly 18/12' mean almost 18 months? I thought he looked familiar in the video.

I guess doing a circle at 100 feet RA is not the riskiest thing he's done in a plane.
Maybe that explains the absence of shoulder harness in the video. After spending 18 months in one of Mad Bob's 'hotel suites' the last thing he ever wants to feel again is under restraint!!!
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Old 5th Dec 2019, 04:53
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Are you all really so impressed with doing a 360 degree turn back to final without a seatbelt? You guys need to get out more!
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Old 5th Dec 2019, 05:21
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Old 5th Dec 2019, 06:21
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Does anyone know what is the real reason for a 360 below MSA ? was this provided for ?
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Old 5th Dec 2019, 06:29
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Originally Posted by cessnaxpilot View Post
Are you all really so impressed with doing a 360 degree turn back to final without a seatbelt? You guys need to get out more!
Have you taken your medication today cessnaxpilot?
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Old 5th Dec 2019, 07:24
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360 on short final ? for Africa, not that unusual. especially over water , (but not always )
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Does anyone know what is the real reason for a 360 below MSA ? was this provided for ?
Cessna SEP landed before still on runway it would seem.
gearlever : I mean there are not so many 727s still flying.
Still a few around , even two (re-engined) in Europe,,
Note that this 727 is African PBN certified .. ( the Garmin 196 taped on top of shield ) .

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Old 5th Dec 2019, 08:04
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Originally Posted by ATC Watcher View Post
360 on short final ? for Africa, not that unusual. especially over water , (but not always )

Cessna SEP landed before still on runway it would seem.
Yes i got that, thanks ...i was more wondering why not following the prescribed procedure instead of a 360 below MSA...i tried to check on Somali AIP and it looks like a standard MAP is provided for.
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Old 5th Dec 2019, 08:19
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360 above or below MSA, what's the difference?
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Old 5th Dec 2019, 08:30
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" I would have made left turns! "

Left 360...closer to land and shooting.
Right 360...more over water and less shooting.
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Old 5th Dec 2019, 08:37
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Originally Posted by macdo View Post
Fair play to the guy, he came out of the 360 still with the RadAlt saying 100'! Mind you I remember a Skip that got retired for doing a 360 going into HER at 200'. The FO was most put out!
I've been on a 737 yonks ago do this going into some Greek island perhaps abit higher, plus recall seeing an EAL 727-100 do this at Key West also a very long time ago
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Old 5th Dec 2019, 08:53
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Here we go again!

Get on with it people, the Captain obviously made a decision at the time to do what he did based on his experience and the environment, is that wrong? No in my opinion!

Was it dangerous and stupid, probably not considering the information already available. If there were pax in the back, yes what he done was absolutely stupid.

A freighter operating into a war zone, all bets are off survival is paramount - screw the rules it’s a survival game.

Kids of the magenta! Old aeroplanes with clocks will always sort the big dogs out who can piss in the long grass without getting wet.
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Old 5th Dec 2019, 09:13
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It's not like he had many other options
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Old 5th Dec 2019, 09:31
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Originally Posted by Duck Pilot View Post
Old aeroplanes with clocks will always sort the big dogs out who can piss in the long grass without getting wet.
Best quotation I've heard in a long time , do you mind if I use it?
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Old 5th Dec 2019, 09:35
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Originally Posted by Hawker400 View Post


It's not like he had many other options
That plate hasn't been updated for 10 years. When was the film taken?
He did have an option to use more height, didn't he?
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Old 5th Dec 2019, 09:52
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He should have climbed to 200 feet!
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Old 5th Dec 2019, 09:53
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Glad to see someone who actually knows how to fly . My congrats to the skipper . Most pilots nowadays would crash or stall halfway through the turn.
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Old 5th Dec 2019, 10:47
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Originally Posted by Capt Fathom View Post
He should have climbed to 200 feet!
Exactly !! Kudos to the skipper.
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