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Condor diversion to SNN in February 2019

Old 12th Sep 2019, 15:20
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Condor diversion to SNN in February 2019

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49672351

Wasn't this the plot line in "Fate is the Hunter"?
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Originally Posted by chucko
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49672351

Wasn't this the plot line in "Fate is the Hunter"?
It was in the plot of the 1964 movie which was so distant from Ernest Gann's magnum opus book of the same title that he disowned the movie.

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The plot of the 1964 film
Fate Is the Hunter had no relation to the book. Gann had written some early drafts of the script, but was so unhappy with the final result that he asked to have his name removed from it. In his autobiography, A Hostage to Fortune, Gann wrote, "They obliged and as a result I deprived myself of the TV residuals, a medium in which the film played interminably."


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I await the new Discovery Channel series: The Deadliest Drink.
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Something else to ban then ...
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Originally Posted by Jetstream67
Something else to ban then ...
There have been bulletins out warning of costly and dangerous liquid spills for many years. And yet some folks will inevitably still set that cup of Starbucks on the center console while they build their nest on the side.
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Old 12th Sep 2019, 17:10
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Originally Posted by chucko
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49672351

Wasn't this the plot line in "Fate is the Hunter"?
Would be interesting to read but the link does not work ... or was it a TC A-330 operating for Condor with cockpit smoke due to coffee spill ?
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Originally Posted by foxcharliep2
Would be interesting to read but the link does not work ... or was it a TC A-330 operating for Condor with cockpit smoke due to coffee spill ?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-49672351

AAIB Report

https://assets.publishing.service.go...TCCF_09-19.pdf
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Old 12th Sep 2019, 17:25
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What are the tolerances of cockpits to fluid spills ?

As nonprofessional, can someone explain to me how tolerant are the controls to liquid spills ? What happens after a liquid spill,even say, there were no immediate effects ? Are the boxes sent for inspection in case seepage has occurred, making unit prone to failure in future ?
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What a shame that there had not been multiple ASRs filed prior to this incident that could have prevented it happening?
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Here is the 1964 movie on YouTube:

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Thanks Romeo Tango FM ! - just found it on the BBC News.
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Speaking as a boat owner and ex. owner of an open-cockpit aircraft I am astonished that instruments are not even splashproof given that drinks are always going to be a feature of the environment.
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I spent a lot of my life teaching fellow pilots and cabin crew to ALWAYS pass drinks to the outside of the pilots and to put them into the cup holders provided in just about every aircraft that I flew. NEVER, EVER pass a drink through the middle, IE: over the centre console because a spillage could have disastrous consequences.

So far, so good.

One day we were passing through some west African airfields on our way south. After take-off, up came a welcome coffee which was duly delivered in exactly this way. Sadly, it went straight through the cup holder and hit the flight deck floor because it was a little bit smaller than the standard fitted cup holder. Luckily, neither I nor the avionics bay downstairs were affected.

Liquid and wiggly amps make poor companions.

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Wasn't there - at one point - a suggestion that the West Air Sweden CRJ 200 (SE - DUX) crash initiating event might have been a drink spill based on the exclamation on the CVR by the PF followed almost instantaneously by erroneous outputs from the IRU? Was that theory ever disproven?
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Coffee spill

https://www.theguardian.com/business...diversion-aaib

in the good old days one of our captains would sit in first class and have his meal with wine and coffee well away from the VHF 1 selector panels.
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What amazes me in this whole story is that a GERMAN airline doesn't have GERMAN cups that fit into GERMAN cupholders. What's next? An overheating Mercedes? Where is this world going!
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The SECOND biggest mystery, however, is why the FO's radio controls burnt. Could it be that a circuit breaker didn't disconnect after the captain's radio was flooded and the resulting short overloaded the fellow unit?
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Originally Posted by UltraFan
What amazes me in this whole story is that a GERMAN airline doesn't have GERMAN cups that fit into GERMAN cupholders. What's next? An overheating Mercedes? Where is this world going!
Don't overheat - If you read the story you will see it was a Thomas Cook UK a/c operating for Condor.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-49672351

https://assets.publishing.service.go...TCCF_09-19.pdf
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What a shame that there had not been multiple ASRs filed prior to this incident that could have prevented it happening?
Always good to see a little sarcasm.
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Last time I checked, ATCOs in Australia were required to use a standard type of sealed mug for drinks, minimizing the risk of spills. Maybe something similar could be done for aircrew.
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