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chucko 12th Sep 2019 14:20

Condor diversion to SNN in February 2019
 
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49672351

Wasn't this the plot line in "Fate is the Hunter"?

Airbubba 12th Sep 2019 14:49


Originally Posted by chucko (Post 10568318)
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49672351

Wasn't this the plot line in "Fate is the Hunter"?

It was in the plot of the 1964 movie which was so distant from Ernest Gann's magnum opus book of the same title that he disowned the movie.

From Wikipedia:


The plot of the 1964 film

Fate Is the Hunter had no relation to the book. Gann had written some early drafts of the script, but was so unhappy with the final result that he asked to have his name removed from it. In his autobiography, A Hostage to Fortune, Gann wrote, "They obliged and as a result I deprived myself of the TV residuals, a medium in which the film played interminably."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fate_Is_the_Hunter

Blind Squirrel 12th Sep 2019 15:20

I await the new Discovery Channel series: The Deadliest Drink.

Jetstream67 12th Sep 2019 15:24

Something else to ban then ...

Airbubba 12th Sep 2019 15:28


Originally Posted by Jetstream67 (Post 10568374)
Something else to ban then ...

There have been bulletins out warning of costly and dangerous liquid spills for many years. And yet some folks will inevitably still set that cup of Starbucks on the center console while they build their nest on the side. :ugh:

foxcharliep2 12th Sep 2019 16:10


Originally Posted by chucko (Post 10568318)
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49672351

Wasn't this the plot line in "Fate is the Hunter"?

Would be interesting to read but the link does not work ... or was it a TC A-330 operating for Condor with cockpit smoke due to coffee spill ?

RomeoTangoFoxtrotMike 12th Sep 2019 16:21


Originally Posted by foxcharliep2 (Post 10568407)
Would be interesting to read but the link does not work ... or was it a TC A-330 operating for Condor with cockpit smoke due to coffee spill ?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-49672351

AAIB Report

https://assets.publishing.service.go...TCCF_09-19.pdf

freshgasflow 12th Sep 2019 16:25

What are the tolerances of cockpits to fluid spills ?
 
As nonprofessional, can someone explain to me how tolerant are the controls to liquid spills ? What happens after a liquid spill,even say, there were no immediate effects ? Are the boxes sent for inspection in case seepage has occurred, making unit prone to failure in future ?

richardthethird 12th Sep 2019 16:39

What a shame that there had not been multiple ASRs filed prior to this incident that could have prevented it happening?

Airbubba 12th Sep 2019 16:40

Here is the 1964 movie on YouTube:


foxcharliep2 12th Sep 2019 16:49


Originally Posted by RomeoTangoFoxtrotMike (Post 10568418)

Thanks Romeo Tango FM ! - just found it on the BBC News.

Turb 12th Sep 2019 16:51

Speaking as a boat owner and ex. owner of an open-cockpit aircraft I am astonished that instruments are not even splashproof given that drinks are always going to be a feature of the environment.

JW411 12th Sep 2019 16:57

I spent a lot of my life teaching fellow pilots and cabin crew to ALWAYS pass drinks to the outside of the pilots and to put them into the cup holders provided in just about every aircraft that I flew. NEVER, EVER pass a drink through the middle, IE: over the centre console because a spillage could have disastrous consequences.

So far, so good.

One day we were passing through some west African airfields on our way south. After take-off, up came a welcome coffee which was duly delivered in exactly this way. Sadly, it went straight through the cup holder and hit the flight deck floor because it was a little bit smaller than the standard fitted cup holder. Luckily, neither I nor the avionics bay downstairs were affected.

Liquid and wiggly amps make poor companions.


Pinkman 12th Sep 2019 17:18

Wasn't there - at one point - a suggestion that the West Air Sweden CRJ 200 (SE - DUX) crash initiating event might have been a drink spill based on the exclamation on the CVR by the PF followed almost instantaneously by erroneous outputs from the IRU? Was that theory ever disproven?

blind pew 12th Sep 2019 19:43

Coffee spill
 
https://www.theguardian.com/business...diversion-aaib

in the good old days one of our captains would sit in first class and have his meal with wine and coffee well away from the VHF 1 selector panels.

UltraFan 12th Sep 2019 20:33

What amazes me in this whole story is that a GERMAN airline doesn't have GERMAN cups that fit into GERMAN cupholders. What's next? An overheating Mercedes? Where is this world going!

UltraFan 12th Sep 2019 20:36

The SECOND biggest mystery, however, is why the FO's radio controls burnt. Could it be that a circuit breaker didn't disconnect after the captain's radio was flooded and the resulting short overloaded the fellow unit?

foxcharliep2 12th Sep 2019 20:46


Originally Posted by UltraFan (Post 10568565)
What amazes me in this whole story is that a GERMAN airline doesn't have GERMAN cups that fit into GERMAN cupholders. What's next? An overheating Mercedes? Where is this world going!

Don't overheat - If you read the story you will see it was a Thomas Cook UK a/c operating for Condor.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-49672351

https://assets.publishing.service.go...TCCF_09-19.pdf

WingNut60 12th Sep 2019 21:29


Originally Posted by richardthethird (Post 10568425)
What a shame that there had not been multiple ASRs filed prior to this incident that could have prevented it happening?

Always good to see a little sarcasm.

segfault 13th Sep 2019 02:43

Last time I checked, ATCOs in Australia were required to use a standard type of sealed mug for drinks, minimizing the risk of spills. Maybe something similar could be done for aircrew.


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