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American Airlines mechanic in Miami charged with sabotaging plane. It aborted takeoff

Old 8th Sep 2019, 19:43
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Originally Posted by CherokeeDriver
How on earth did American Airlines manage to create such a toxic work environment for their employees?
There is only one person to blame for this act, the perpetrator. To suggest environment makes it acceptable which you do despite your caveat is disingenuous. People are responsible for their choices and actions. He will now be responsible for his in a jail cell which is where he belongs.
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Old 9th Sep 2019, 01:21
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Originally Posted by QuagmireAirlines
For example, I still think it's bizarre how the sabotage happened in July, and obviously discovered, while it took over a month to arrest the crazy person.
Maybe they were observing him to see if they can catch him in the act, or to see if he has accomplices.
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Old 9th Sep 2019, 03:01
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Originally Posted by AC560


There is only one person to blame for this act, the perpetrator. To suggest environment makes it acceptable which you do despite your caveat is disingenuous. People are responsible for their choices and actions. He will now be responsible for his in a jail cell which is where he belongs.
Employeers are also responsible for actions of their employees, and clearly there have been failures on the background checks... said so I do agree that enviroment should not be used as a justification
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Old 9th Sep 2019, 03:15
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Originally Posted by AC560
To suggest environment makes it acceptable which you do despite your caveat is disingenuous.
Cherokee Driver didn't make any such suggestion. To try to understand the circumstances that may lead to behavior such as the act we are discussing is not to accept or excuse it.
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Almost beyond belief!
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Would this have prevented you from hiring the guy?

https://www.foxnews.com/us/american-...terrorist-ties
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Old 19th Sep 2019, 04:35
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Originally Posted by UltraFan
The guy is an idiot, not a terrorist. Would this even be on the news, let alone on FBI "joint terrorism task force", if his name was Joe Bob Whitaker? I wonder.
That's the line his defense attorney is going to try to sell. It looks like his brother is well known to the Miami JTTF (Joint Terrorism Task Force). And those jihadi beheading videos on his phone merely show that he is a man of faith, right? He just forgot to mention his recent trip to Iraq when asked.

How can he be a mechanic for American for 30 years in the U.S. and not speak much English? Even in the Middle East the maintenance manuals are in English as far as I know.

Lone wolf, no known ties etc...

He may just be a fool but I can see why the FBI and the U.S. Attorney would want him to be kept in custody.
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Old 19th Sep 2019, 06:45
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Airbubba, it seems it's much worse than that.
An American Airlines mechanic was denied bail by a federal judge Wednesday for potential ties to ISIS, after he was arrested for allegedly sabotaging a plane at Miami International Airport.
  • Prosecutors presented evidence in court that defendant Abdul-Majeed Marouf Ahmed Alani has a brother in Iraq with potential ties to ISIS and lied about visiting him in the country in March.
  • A search of Alani’s phone by prosecutors turned up a “disturbing” ISIS video of someone being shot in the head. Alani allegedly sent the video to someone along with a message that Allah should take revenge against non-Muslims, but it’s unclear if the video was texted, emailed or transmitted by another electronic method.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisette.../#7e8254bd177a

His being a fool now appears to be an unlikely 'best case'. The more likely worst case is unimaginable bad...
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Old 19th Sep 2019, 10:05
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Originally Posted by CherokeeDriver
What a sad story. A person in a safety critical role deliberately sabotaging a critical aircraft system. How on earth did American Airlines manage to create such a toxic work environment for their employees? I don't in any way condone the actions of this member of staff before anyone suggests otherwise.
There may or may not be a toxic work environment but the only person responsible for this is the individual concerned and in large organisations it is difficult to ensure that there are not occasional individuals who perform unethical or dangerous actions. I am sure his recruitment, management and supervsion will be investigated.

I once called in to assist in a long running investigation of a medical imaging device which the customer complained was consistently producing poor quality images but whenever serviced was absolutely fine. This turned out to be a hospital employee who had previously worked for the manufacturer who had a grudge and was deliberately detuning/miscalibrating the system after servicing although he had no responsibility for working with the machine at all. We as the technical team took a little time to realise we were not looking at a technical issue. The whole thing was strange, he was not going to benefit, it could affect patient treatment although the possible impact of this was limited by daily QC checks on the machine, it was never going to make a long term impact on the company concerned and if he continued to sabotage the systems performance he was bound to be caught eventually. The sad fact is that there are a small proportion of people who take such actions and they are not always easy to spot.
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Old 19th Sep 2019, 12:04
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Airbubba, it seems it's much worse than that.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisette.../#7e8254bd177a

His being a fool now appears to be an unlikely 'best case'. The more likely worst case is unimaginable bad...
OK, it's certainly seeming less likely than when the story first popped up.
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Some discussion of the safety aspects of the sabotage incident in this Miami Herald article:

But the prosecutor also said Alani admitted to investigators that his tampering with the plane’s navigation system was dangerous. When they asked him whether he would allow himself or his own family to fly on the jet without the system, he said “no,” Medetis said.

Medetis said investigators also spoke with the American Airlines pilot of the targeted plane, and he said that without a functional navigation system “it could have resulted in a crash.” The plane’s so-called air data module is a system that reports aircraft speed, pitch and other critical flight data to pilots. Alani is accused of disabling the system that served the pilot.

But Alani’s assistant federal public defender, Christian Dunham, said the prosecutors were exaggerating the evidence. He pointed out that there was a second navigation system still working on the plane so his alleged sabotage could not have caused it to crash.

“We don’t believe he intentionally endangered the safety of people” on that flight, said Dunham, who sought a pretrial bond signed by Alani’s family members in California and Florida. “I think the government is blowing this out of proportion.”


https://www.miamiherald.com/news/loc...235199172.html
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Old 19th Sep 2019, 20:23
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Originally Posted by b1lanc
Would this have prevented you from hiring the guy?
https://www.foxnews.com/us/american-...terrorist-ties
I don't know if we're allowed to discuss terrorism on this forum. I do wonder how someone like that gets hired though. Guess thats all I'm allowed to say.
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Old 19th Sep 2019, 20:44
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If this guy's goal was to just inconvenience a flight, I would think there are easier ways to do it.

So is was he a diligent prankster or a lousy saboteur?
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Old 19th Sep 2019, 21:17
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Originally Posted by QuagmireAirlines
I do wonder how someone like that gets hired though. Guess thats all I'm allowed to say.
Under the concept of 'diversity' folks who are 'different' are given preference in hiring. How much standards should be adjusted to promote goals of inclusion is a matter of some controversy.

From American's website:

Celebrating our differences

Employee Business Resource Groups

With more than 100,000 team members in 65 countries, our goal is to provide an inclusive environment for all. Our Diversity Advisory Council (DAC) leads diversity efforts across American by fostering company-wide educational, community service and personal enrichment opportunities. The council also supports local Employee Business Resource Groups (EBRGs), which represent many employees and their beliefs, nationalities and backgrounds.

PRIDE EBRG (LGBT and Allies)

For the past 15 years, the Human Rights Campaign has given us the highest possible rating in the Corporate Equality Index, a nationally recognized benchmark that evaluates top workplaces in the U.S. and their inclusion of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) employees, customers and suppliers. We proudly support the LGBT community and we're taking steps to ensure equality for all employees.






https://www.aa.com/i18n/customer-service/about-us/diversity/employee-diversity.jsp
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Old 19th Sep 2019, 21:32
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Originally Posted by Airbubba
Under the concept of 'diversity' folks who are 'different' are given preference in hiring.
Do you have any evidence for that ?

Promoting equality and diversity means giving the same opportunities to everyone. It doesn't mean biasing recruitment in favour of any particular group.

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Old 19th Sep 2019, 21:49
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
Promoting equality and diversity means giving the same opportunities to everyone. It doesn't mean biasing recruitment in favour of any particular group.
I certainly agree that's how it should be.
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Originally Posted by Airbubba

Under the concept of 'diversity' folks who are 'different' are given preference in hiring. How much standards should be adjusted to promote goals of inclusion is a matter of some controversy.

From American's website:




https://www.aa.com/i18n/customer-service/about-us/diversity/employee-diversity.jsp
Note the reference to "team members in 65 countries." If you were in that photo, Airbubba, you would be one of the "folks who are different," as would any of us, because we are all different, in various ways.

I'd like to add my request for evidence that American, for instance, adjusts hiring standards due to the "differences" to which you refer. I'm pretty sure that doesn't happen and I'm virtually certain it doesn't happen for, e.g., A&P mechs, avionics techs, flight crew members, etc.

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Old 20th Sep 2019, 08:47
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
Do you have any evidence for that ?

Promoting equality and diversity means giving the same opportunities to everyone. It doesn't mean biasing recruitment in favour of any particular group.
thats the theory,not the reality...
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
Do you have any evidence for that ?

Promoting equality and diversity means giving the same opportunities to everyone. It doesn't mean biasing recruitment in favour of any particular group.
This may be out of date; maybe not --

The principal affirmative action legislation in Australia is the Affirmative Action (Equal Opportunity for Women) Act 1986. This legislation aims to improve the status of women in employment by requiring certain employers to promote equal employment opportunity for women by developing and implementing an affirmative action program.(5)The Affirmative Action (Equal Employment Opportunity for Women) Act 1986 covers all higher education institutions and employers (other than public sector employers) employing 100 or more employees. They are required to develop and implement affirmative action programs for women and to submit annual reports on the progress of those programs. Public sector employers are covered by public sector equal employment opportunity legislation. For example, section 22B of the Commonwealth Public Service Act 1922 requires federal government departments to implement affirmative action programs in relation to certain disadvantaged groups.There are eight steps to an affirmative action program, as described in the Affirmative Action (Equal Employment Opportunity for Women) Act 1986, which an employer must take, namely:
  • issue an affirmative action policy statement to all staff
  • appoint a senior manager to oversee the program
  • consult with employees, particularly women
  • develop a profile showing jobs where men and women work
  • review personnel policies and practices
  • set goals for the program
  • monitor the program and evaluate its achievements.
The Affirmative Action Agency, which administers the Affirmative Action (Equal Employment Opportunity for Women) Act 1986, names organisations failing to submit a report or providing a program. The report is tabled in the Australian Parliament.On 1 January 1993 the Keating Government introduced a policy of contract compliance under which organisations failing to comply with the Affirmative Action (Equal Employment Opportunity for Women) Act 1986 are ineligible for government contracts and specified forms of industry assistance.
Ostensibly "ensured equal opportunity" but, as with American "affirmative action" programs has been roundly criticised, by some, for enabling that which it was enacted to prevent.

You can never level the playing field unless you play a little bit of "catch up" first.
There are programs and policies in the West Australian mining sector that, if closely scrutinised would be seen to exceed simply ensuring equal opportunity employment, to improve employment rates for aborigines. Nobody of any consequence sees these policies as threatening or unfair.
There is room for such policies without anyone being unduly inconvenienced.
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Old 20th Sep 2019, 12:35
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Originally Posted by DaveReidUK
Do you have any evidence for that ?

Promoting equality and diversity means giving the same opportunities to everyone. It doesn't mean biasing recruitment in favour of any particular group.
U.S. labor law?
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