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BA422 smoke incident Valencia

Old 5th Aug 2019, 19:08
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BA422 smoke incident Valencia

G-MEDN declared an emergency inbound to Valencia today due to smoke in the cabin. The passengers evacuated the aircraft via the slides.https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-...mpression=true
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BA does seem to have more than it's fair share of incidents at the moment. 3 weeks ago the LGW / Cancun flight had to make an emergency landing for fumes. Different aircraft. Glad all are safe.
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Old 5th Aug 2019, 19:23
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White smoke, so no fire?
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Old 5th Aug 2019, 20:41
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Cabin crew don’t seem to bother with smoke hoods? Do they know what exactly what substances they are breathing in?
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Old 5th Aug 2019, 20:52
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https://www.eurocockpit.be/sites/def...ECA%202017.pdf Eurocockpit advice after a smoke fumes incident.
Has there been any news on the cockpit crew being affected?
Lots of photos starting to appear with two exits not opened and passengers wandering around with their baggage. When will they ever learn?

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Old 5th Aug 2019, 20:57
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Cabin crew don’t seem to bother with smoke hoods? Do they know what exactly what substances they are breathing in?
Indeed a bit surprising, unless they fully asserted the source.
Let's wait for more details.
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Rumour it was an engine fire- anyone have any advance on this?
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Will they ever learn to video in landscape and not portrait!!!
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Will they ever learn to video in landscape and not portrait!!!
LOL! Which maybe says a lot about these people!
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Old 5th Aug 2019, 22:20
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This actually looks quite scary. Are some cabin crew not meant to be at bottom of slide to assist pax?
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Old 5th Aug 2019, 22:27
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Originally Posted by nivsy View Post
This actually looks quite scary. Are some cabin crew not meant to be at bottom of slide to assist pax?
Not necessarily. Maybe someone from BA can chime in here but when I was with USAirways (many years ago now) the commands were, while tapping the selected psgrs on the shoulder, “you and you, stand at the bottom and hold the slide. You help them off and send them away!” (Amazing how it sticks with you decades later!)
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Old 5th Aug 2019, 22:58
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Passenger comments from this flight

"Just been evacuated off a flight to Valencia after plane filled with smoke. No water, no first aid. People crying. No BA representative. Help!."

"We are stranded at Valencia airport and no one from BA has said a word to us since the plane filled with smoke. No food, no bags, no information. Someone tell us what’s going on."

"Still waiting to hear what actually happened on our British Airways flight from LHR to Valencia in which our cabin filled with smoke in the last 10 minutes of flight, had to disembark via emergency chutes. No comms 60 mins and counting!

BA statement "British Airways teams are assisting customers who are in the airport terminal."

Clearly not......no surprise there then.... the usual BA approach to "caring for" their passengers.

Given the ten minutes when "smoke filled the cabin", the commander would have briefed the CC about how the evacuation should be handled and which exits should be used. CC and quite possibly commander would have repeated instructions to passengers to leave all personal belongings behind. A message which should be very quickly and firmly reinforced at the head of the slide.....a slide evac is an emergency procedure, speed is of the essence.
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Originally Posted by MichaelKPIT View Post

Not necessarily. Maybe someone from BA can chime in here but when I was with USAirways (many years ago now) the commands were, while tapping the selected psgrs on the shoulder, “you and you, stand at the bottom and hold the slide. You help them off and send them away!” (Amazing how it sticks with you decades later!)
Yes but now sadly it seems people will slowly walk away and start filming or taking photos so they can show off to the Internet.
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Yes but now sadly it seems people will slowly walk away and start filming or taking photos so they can show off to the Internet.
Not that I condone it, but the thing is that in some instances (not necessarily here) it can be of value to investigators.
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Old 5th Aug 2019, 23:52
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As much as you see the messages from those saying BA was all terrible, one twitter cited by BBC said that the crews were wonderful, some CC did have O2 masks on but I saw prais for flight and cabin crew. So everyone sees the problem from their own point of view, their own experience and expectations. {I do not and have never worked for BA}
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Old 6th Aug 2019, 00:43
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{ have no doubt that the crew of this aircraft handled this emergency in a very professional manner. The evacuation took place, and no lives were lost...that is the important thing. But clearly after the event no one was looking after the needs of the pax,. who would understandably be suffering from shock and would be distressed. It is this aspect of BA's customer care that I am criticizing.
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Old 6th Aug 2019, 02:37
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This unfortunate incident might just confirm the continuing need for a simple, straight forward & easy to understand pre flight emergency briefing. This as an alternative to having a load of rugby players prancing about & this, seemingly the important thing, rather than getting the message across to the pax! This incident, like all when there is smoke / fire inside the aircraft, resulted in the aircraft landing safely & all those on board evacuating. That is the most important issue, anything else can be sorted / discussed later on. Looks a good job by the Crew.

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Old 6th Aug 2019, 07:32
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Originally Posted by nivsy View Post
This actually looks quite scary. Are some cabin crew not meant to be at bottom of slide to assist pax?
No, however some airlines may have a procedure similar to that described by MichaelKPIT.
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Old 6th Aug 2019, 07:35
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I am surprised noone has thus far suggested this was extreme condensation from the AC. Particular the timing - ten minutes before landing - is when the aircraft may have descended into outside air that is warmer than the cabin. But one also notes the lack of breathing distress from passengers not wearing masks. There was also no sign of "smoke" issuing from the open doors during the evacuation.
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