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Old 15th Jul 2019, 07:23
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Ryanair “re-branding” their 737 MAX


From 737 MAX

To 737-8200
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At least there should be plenty of time for the paint to dry!
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I wondered where the -8200 name came from. That's the number of seats according to the press release: https://boeing.mediaroom.com/2014-09...0-with-Ryanair
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Yes, it's simply a marketing designation for the not-yet-certficated Max 8 option with the additional emergency exit that allows "200" (actually 197) passengers.

As well as Ryanair, Xiamen and VietJet have placed orders for it.
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The pitot cover and AoA vane look like a question mark, as in

? 737-8200
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First example for Ryanair, showing the additional E/E:



http://www.flickr.com/photos/737max-...on/45032111285
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Yes, it's simply a marketing designation for the not-yet-certficated Max 8 option with the additional emergency exit that allows "200" (actually 197) passengers.

As well as Ryanair, Xiamen and VietJet have placed orders for it.
So what will they call their other ones? B737-8180? B737-9220? B737-10230?
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Originally Posted by GordonR_Cape
So what will they call their other ones? B737-8180? B737-9220? B737-10230?
They can call them anything they like - that's the great thing about marketing designations.

Though I don't think RYR have any interest in the Max 9 or 10.
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When you think you have to hide the real name of your product to make it " acceptable" to your customers , you are on the wrong side the battle.
And by doing this you take the risk that people that will care about not flying in the Max will be confused and reject the whole 737 whatever its type and avoid your company altogether.
Time will tell of course if next year this issue will still makes the headlines and if, like before , the price of the ticket rather than the aircraft type will be the deciding factor..
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Originally Posted by Uplinker
The pitot cover and AoA vane look like a question mark, as in

? 737-8200
The additional AOA sensor must be on the other side?
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And by doing this you take the risk that people that will care about not flying in the Max will be confused and reject the whole 737 whatever its type and avoid your company altogether.
ATC Watcher.
Was about to post along this exact same line.
Some of the flying public might feel they are tricked into climbing aboard a disguised MAX.

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Might be best to call it the MAX8R (Revised)
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CC to nervous SLF: "No this one's much safer than the MAX Sir/Madam. You see we have an extra emergency exit!"
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Originally Posted by ATC Watcher
When you think you have to hide the real name of your product to make it "acceptable" to your customers, you are on the wrong side the battle.
The link in post #3 makes it clear that it's a designation dreamed up 5 years ago. The Max hadn't even flown by then.
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Didn't the type certificate and sim always wear the name 737-8?
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could have been worse, -911, or 737- 10-52, - 10-92...
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Old 15th Jul 2019, 12:35
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Originally Posted by Less Hair
Didn't the type certificate and sim always wear the name 737-8?
There have been photos posted of sims badged as "737 Max" (presumably configurable for both Max 7 and Max 8).

I guess if you pay for a sim you can paint whatever you want on it.

But you are correct in that anything relating to airworthiness, certification, etc will refer to 737-8, 737-9, etc.
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American Airlines may only have a small alteration to make. Having just looked at a photograph I took of one of their 8 Max's last November, the only reference to it being a MAX was a small yellow inscription on the nose gear door which read: 73-8x.
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Originally Posted by Hotel Tango
American Airlines may only have a small alteration to make. Having just looked at a photograph I took of one of their 8 Max's last November, the only reference to it being a MAX was a small yellow inscription on the nose gear door which read: 73-8x.
They might need to spend a few bob at the printer's as well:

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They might need to spend a few bob at the printer's as well:
Already spent. Just have to chuck those with reference to the MAX
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