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Delta Airlines Flight DL-1425 ATL-BWI, MD-88, diverted to RDU due to engine failure

Old 9th Jul 2019, 16:02
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Delta Airlines Flight DL-1425 ATL-BWI, MD-88, diverted to RDU due to engine failure

I'm surprised this isn't much in the news or in here at all:

From The Aviation Herald:
"A Delta Airlines McDonnell Douglas MD-88, registration N906DL performing flight DL-1425 from Atlanta,GA to Baltimore,MD (USA) with 154 people on board, was enroute at FL330 about 30nm northwest of Raleigh/Durham,NC (USA) when the crew decided to divert to Raleigh/Durham due to a problem with one of the engines (JT8D). The aircraft landed safely on runway 23R about 30 minutes later.
The airline reported the crew received indication of a possible engine issue and diverted to Raleigh/Durham. "

That sounds innocent enough, but the reason I'm checking in here is a Facebook video, apparently from one of the passengers, Becca Montouth, that seems to show the whole first stage turbine missing, and the spinner rumbling around in the casing?
Edit: Apparently not missing the fan, it sits behind the vanes on this engine.

Have anyone in here heard about this incident?

I'm not allowed to post links due to too few posts, but maybe one of you can look it up on AVHerald and also find Becca Montouth's video on Facebook?
(I'm also not placing a picture of her video, out of respect for her claim of licensing rights. But it looks like a pretty bad failure.)

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Old 9th Jul 2019, 16:57
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Originally Posted by sporg View Post
I'm surprised this isn't much in the news or in here at all:

From The Aviation Herald:
"A Delta Airlines McDonnell Douglas MD-88, registration N906DL performing flight DL-1425 from Atlanta,GA to Baltimore,MD (USA) with 154 people on board, was enroute at FL330 about 30nm northwest of Raleigh/Durham,NC (USA) when the crew decided to divert to Raleigh/Durham due to a problem with one of the engines (JT8D). The aircraft landed safely on runway 23R about 30 minutes later.
The airline reported the crew received indication of a possible engine issue and diverted to Raleigh/Durham. "

That sounds innocent enough, but the reason I'm checking in here is a Facebook video, apparently from one of the passengers, Becca Montouth, that seems to show the whole first stage turbine missing, and the spinner rumbling around in the casing?

Have anyone in here heard about this incident?

I'm not allowed to post links due to too few posts, but maybe one of you can look it up on AVHerald and also find Becca Montouth's video on Facebook?
(I'm also not placing a picture of her video, out of respect for her claim of licensing rights. But it looks like a pretty bad failure.)
I saw the video. Bearings glowing red hot. Nose cone of the spinner bouncing around in the inlet like it's in the drawer on spin dry!
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Old 9th Jul 2019, 17:03
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FB video here from Becca - https://www.facebook.com/becca.myown...ZKuYAuJX5F37Bu

Incident: Delta MD88 near Raleigh/Durham on Jul 8th 2019, engine problem

It's running a little hot.
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/3ed4b62...a-4758eda371d2
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Its on facebook. I don't theres any copyright issues.

that seems to show the whole first stage turbine missing
i think you mean compressor/fan.
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Old 9th Jul 2019, 17:16
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Originally Posted by TURIN View Post
<FB link>

Its on facebook. I don't theres any copyright issues.

i think you mean compressor/fan.
Yes, I do. And it might even not be missing, I looked up the engine and its fan sits behind the vanes.

About Facebook, I think you're right.
But taking a screenshot and posting here might be going too far, so I preferred to be on the safe side.
The problem was really that I couldn't provide the link itself, but rog747 helped with that, thanks. 👍
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Here's a screen shot from the video by Becca Montouth:


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Originally Posted by TURIN View Post
https://www.facebook.com/becca.myown...212221606/?t=0

Its on facebook. I don't theres any copyright issues.



i think you mean compressor/fan.
Its a PW JT8D. The first stage is behind the fixed guide vanes. The spinner & cover including the N1 tacho seem to have "detached"

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Old 9th Jul 2019, 19:18
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Is it me or do people just have no survival instincts?
Just sit there and make a video?
MOVE!!!
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Old 9th Jul 2019, 19:39
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probably just ate some blue ice
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Old 9th Jul 2019, 19:45
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Originally Posted by B2N2 View Post
Is it me or do people just have no survival instincts?
Just sit there and make a video?
MOVE!!!
I'm only SLF but having watched the video what were the alternatives? Stepping outside doesn't appear to have been an option at that time.
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Old 9th Jul 2019, 20:00
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I'd move ASAP. Just go forward. When these things let go, .060"/1.5mm (probably not even that in areas) of aluminium or an inch of perspex will not stop the shrapnel.
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Definitely be moving away from that thing, at least a couple more rows forward.
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Old 9th Jul 2019, 20:16
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Originally Posted by clark y View Post
I'd move ASAP. Just go forward. When these things let go, .060"/1.5mm (probably not even that in areas) of aluminium or an inch of perspex will not stop the shrapnel.
As indeed it didn't in PNS on flight 1288 almost exactly 23 years ago!
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Originally Posted by clark y View Post
I'd move ASAP. Just go forward. When these things let go, .060"/1.5mm (probably not even that in areas) of aluminium or an inch of perspex will not stop the shrapnel.
Yes, but relatively few pax will appreciate either that an uncontained failure may be imminent or what the consequences of such failure are likely to be.
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Well, this is interesting. I was a million plus passenger, am an aerospace engineer, and am around military flight operations all the time, so feel like I fully understand the implications. That is definitely scarier that I thought sitting in my seat trying to explain what I thought was going on to passengers around me up in the front of the aircraft; ignorance is bliss. Thanks for posting the pictures. Have been looking for info and refuse to get a facebook account to look at the video the young lady posted. Thanks for the posting.
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If you are around to film it, it's perfectly safe (like thunder and lightning)
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Old 9th Jul 2019, 22:05
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"Moving" assumes there is someplace else to move to. Most domestic flights in the US have few if any unoccupied seats these days.
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Most passengers would not be aware of the danger associated with the potential for the uncontained failure of a jet engine; however, the crew certainly should be. Although there may not be open seats available, I would think that the cabin crew could relocate passengers seated near the failing engine until that engine could be shut down. An uncontained failure of a fuselage pylon-mounted engine would probably throw shrapnel into the cabin area.

It has happened before.

An uncontained engine failure occurred at Pensacola Regional Airport (PNS) on July 06, 1996 during the takeoff run of Delta Airlines Flight 1288. Two passengers (a mother and her son) were killed when the compressor hub of the No.1 engine (P&W JT8D) failed, hurling debris (shrapnel) into the cabin. The failure occurred early in the takeoff roll, and the aircraft was safely stopped on the runway. There was no ensuing fire.

Here's a link to the NTSB report: https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/...ts/AAR9801.pdf

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Originally Posted by capngrog View Post
Most passengers would not be aware of the danger associated with the potential for the uncontained failure of a jet engine; however, the crew certainly should be. Although there may not be open seats available, I would think that the cabin crew could relocate passengers seated near the failing engine until that engine could be shut down. An uncontained failure of a fuselage pylon-mounted engine would probably throw shrapnel into the cabin area.

It has happened before.

An uncontained engine failure occurred at Pensacola Regional Airport (PNS) on July 06, 1996 during the takeoff run of Delta Airlines Flight 1288. Two passengers (a mother and her son) were killed when the compressor hub of the No.1 engine (P&W JT8D) failed, hurling debris (shrapnel) into the cabin. The failure occurred early in the takeoff roll, and the aircraft was safely stopped on the runway. There was no ensuing fire.

Here's a link to the NTSB report: https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/...ts/AAR9801.pdf

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Old 10th Jul 2019, 03:37
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Originally Posted by B2N2 View Post
Is it me or do people just have no survival instincts?
Just sit there and make a video?
MOVE!!!
Unfortunately, nowadays the first thing people do when something unusual happens is take out their phones.
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