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Vegas-bound stag party who abused crew and exposed themselves on plane, jailed

Old 5th Jun 2019, 16:58
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Originally Posted by pants on fire...
Just dropping them off in Winnipeg would be punishment enough for most people, even to the point of being considered cruel and unusual punishment.

The sentences are entirely appropriate. Compensation would also be entirely appropriate.
And hopefully the Mounties gave them a good kicking.
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Old 5th Jun 2019, 17:07
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Smile

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Hoe does mounted police get onboard an aircraft?
Very carefully?

They're very well trained, those horses, they can climb air-stairs you know...
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Old 5th Jun 2019, 17:56
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Originally Posted by bunk exceeder


And hopefully the Mounties gave them a good kicking.
Or alternatively: let the horses do the kicking
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Old 5th Jun 2019, 18:40
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it wouldn't be that difficult for an airline to write into their contract with their ground handling agents that said agent will meet all costs caused by passengers being drunk/disruptive, and that the agent can have the joy of recovering this money from the passenger! Should concentrate minds somewhat...

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Old 5th Jun 2019, 18:50
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Frankly no, 2 years inside isn’t enough. Tack on a lifetime flying ban & then it’d get my seal of approval.
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How did they end up in Manchester Crown Court when they were arrested in Winnipeg? I though these cases were normally prosecuted in the jurisdiction where the aircraft lands.
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Old 5th Jun 2019, 20:45
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Good old Manchester.

My daughter who was 17 at the time told me she was given a free shot of Vodka at Manchester at 6am earlier this year and they offered my lad who was only 15 one as well then realised that he was perhaps not 18 yet but asked him if he was old enough. They will do anything to get you in the bar.

I have seen plenty falling out of minibuses all ready drunk when they turn up outside the Terminal. Just part and parcel of a big section of UK society now days.

A chap I know is a paramedic, he hates Friday and Saturday nights as most of his calls are to very drunk people some of whom like to fight the medics who are trying to help them.

2 years in Prison. Happy days, let hope it gets plenty of coverage in the UK national press
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Old 5th Jun 2019, 20:55
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Originally Posted by India Four Two
How did they end up in Manchester Crown Court when they were arrested in Winnipeg? I though these cases were normally prosecuted in the jurisdiction where the aircraft lands.
Depends on when the behavior occurred. If the criminal actions took place over international waters, the laws of jurisdiction where the aircraft is registered apply. Generally you can't be convicted for crimes that occur outside a jurisdiction's geographical limits. That was least the case when I took my Air Law exam.

So it would make sense to be detained by the authorities in the country where they landed, and subsequently extradited for prosecution.
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Old 5th Jun 2019, 21:49
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The Bride...

I hope she went on with the wedding and answered the ultimate question with : NO!
Not fit for breeding.

Manchester , what can I say, not my favorite destination.
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Old 5th Jun 2019, 22:22
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Flying for a large european airline I would not be quite so fast to blame just the British for drunken behaviour on aircraft, I have had problems with drunken passengers from most nations.
Largley the other nationals are embarrassed by the behaviour and say little about is, the British recognise the problem and the British police take action in court and so the problem is not swept under the carpet.
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Old 5th Jun 2019, 22:44
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Compensation should most certainly be on the cards. Why should this cost the airline anything?
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Old 6th Jun 2019, 11:52
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classic brit hooligans, not only for football matches anymore...
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Old 6th Jun 2019, 12:01
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That should've been a subject to discuss at Monsieur de Juniac's recent IATA conference
I presume that is tongue in cheek ProPax? IATA are apparently opposed to the restriction of alcohol sales in airports and in the UK, the suggested application of more restrictive practices (reduced opening hours) for airside alcohol sales.
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Old 6th Jun 2019, 13:28
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Originally Posted by Reverserbucket
IATA are apparently opposed to the restriction of alcohol sales in airports and in the UK, .
Errrrrr.......why ?????

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Old 6th Jun 2019, 13:32
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Errrrrr.......why ?????
Money.

If the airport operator makes less from its pub and restaurant franchises, it will make up the revenue by increasing landing and passenger charges for airlines.

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Old 6th Jun 2019, 19:10
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Dave,
In a recent article in the SF Chronicle, it was stated that SFO makes more money on pickup and dropoff charges from ride-share companies than the combined revenue from food, beverage, and other sales. $39 million from 2014 on.
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Old 6th Jun 2019, 19:27
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In a recent article in the SF Chronicle, it was stated that SFO makes more money on pickup and dropoff charges from ride-share companies than the combined revenue from food, beverage, and other sales. $39 million from 2014 on.
I'm sure that's correct.

Doubtless IATA would be concerned if there was a risk of airports losing revenue from any source, if it meant that its members would be squeezed to make up the deficit.
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Old 6th Jun 2019, 20:04
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Appropriate sentences?
When I look at some crimes - such as bodily harm etc. and their sentencing, I find it way too harsh. A lot of people who are REAL threats to society and ave done ACTUAL harm wander around or are on probation.
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Old 7th Jun 2019, 09:18
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Surely someone who behaves like that on a plane will have shown signs of that sort of behaviour before - I imagine the bride admires him for his manly ways. And the airline should definitely go after him for the full cost of the diversion - his 40K a year might not look so good.
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Old 7th Jun 2019, 22:00
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I'm just a bit curious here, but does anyone know what type of aircraft was involved in this incident? The great circle distance from Manchester, U.K. to Las Vegas, U.S.A., is roughly 5100 statute miles, and the distance from Manchester, U.K. to Winnipeg, Canada is roughly 3800 miles, or around 3/4 of the way from Manchester to Las Vegas. I would think that a transport category aircraft, having completed 75% of its journey would have burned off more than enough fuel so as to be under its maximum landing weight, thus making it unnecessary to dump fuel for landing. Or could the reportage be incorrect? Or could my guesstimate figuring be incorrect (more likely)?

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