Passenger offloaded from Air NZ flight for ignoring safety briefing
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www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/08/passenger-thrown-off-air-new-zealand-plane-for-refusing-to-read-safety-instructions-card
www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/08/passenger-thrown-off-air-new-zealand-plane-for-refusing-to-read-safety-instructions-card
A woman who refused to watch the regulation air safety video or read the safety instructions card handed to her by flight attendants has reportedly been removed from an Air New Zealand flight in Wellington.
The woman, described by other passengers as “wealthy-looking”, was sitting in the exit row but ignored attendants’ attempts to get her to listen to the safety instructions for flight NZ424 to Auckland on Tuesday.
The woman, described by other passengers as “wealthy-looking”, was sitting in the exit row but ignored attendants’ attempts to get her to listen to the safety instructions for flight NZ424 to Auckland on Tuesday.
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Yes lady, the law applies to you. Did the man have to get off as well?
Perhaps she can pawn her bag and charter a private flight.
(One of the regular items taken into that TV program's pawn shop are bags that cost a bazillion quid. Utterly vacuous people in my not so humble opinion.)
Perhaps she can pawn her bag and charter a private flight.
(One of the regular items taken into that TV program's pawn shop are bags that cost a bazillion quid. Utterly vacuous people in my not so humble opinion.)
Airlines should actually position a cabin crew member in the exit row next to the emergency escape window/hatch.
But, aviation regulators let airlines get away with it by placing someone with half a brain to listen to what needs to be done in an emergency.
And stupidly, airlines then charge a premium to sell such seats to pax which tends to attract many of those "I am entitled" crowd that even don't have half a brain.
But, aviation regulators let airlines get away with it by placing someone with half a brain to listen to what needs to be done in an emergency.
And stupidly, airlines then charge a premium to sell such seats to pax which tends to attract many of those "I am entitled" crowd that even don't have half a brain.
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As a frequent pax, I wish that more airlines would behave in a way that supports safety.
Instead we get overlong videos (I'm looking at you, BA) that seem to be designed to entertain and chug and crew who stand by placidly as people overtalk the briefings.
The best airline that I fly, in this respect, is Ryanair. Very short and to the point briefing and crew often prepared to ask pax to be quiet.
Instead we get overlong videos (I'm looking at you, BA) that seem to be designed to entertain and chug and crew who stand by placidly as people overtalk the briefings.
The best airline that I fly, in this respect, is Ryanair. Very short and to the point briefing and crew often prepared to ask pax to be quiet.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...tructions-card
The passenger has probably heard airline safety instructions dozens of time before. Is there that much difference between them? Frankly it surprised me that the crew made a big deal about this situation.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...tructions-card
The passenger has probably heard airline safety instructions dozens of time before. Is there that much difference between them? Frankly it surprised me that the crew made a big deal about this situation.
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Airlines should actually position a cabin crew member in the exit row next to the emergency escape window/hatch.
Whatever happened to the 21 year olds wearing suspenders and mini skirts who made flying fun?
We have to listen to this blah blah blah in case the drivers get it badly wrong and then we are supposed to fight our way out over mountains of baggage which should be in the hold.
We have to listen to this blah blah blah in case the drivers get it badly wrong and then we are supposed to fight our way out over mountains of baggage which should be in the hold.
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The passenger has probably heard airline safety instructions dozens of time before. Is there that much difference between them? Frankly it surprised me that the crew made a big deal about this situation.
Sorry PastTense, there is NO excuse whatsover for the attitude of these passengers. I hope Air NZ will ban them for life!
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Or are you suggesting that doing a takeoff brief once a year should be sufficient for pilots, because "it doesn't change that much"? /sarcasm
(I don't fly anything like as much as HT, but I still do what they describe)
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In the US, exit row passengers are asked if they can help during an evacuation. If the passenger is unable or unwilling to help, they are simply moved to another seat. Just wondering why that wasn't done here?
Half the passengers don't listen to safety briefings in the first place, of those that do half don't understand them. Of those that understand them, half won't remember them. That generally leaves a small number of people who would probably be able to work it out on their own anyway.
As a frequent pax, I wish that more airlines would behave in a way that supports safety.
Instead we get overlong videos (I'm looking at you, BA) that seem to be designed to entertain and chug and crew who stand by placidly as people overtalk the briefings.
The best airline that I fly, in this respect, is Ryanair. Very short and to the point briefing and crew often prepared to ask pax to be quiet.
Instead we get overlong videos (I'm looking at you, BA) that seem to be designed to entertain and chug and crew who stand by placidly as people overtalk the briefings.
The best airline that I fly, in this respect, is Ryanair. Very short and to the point briefing and crew often prepared to ask pax to be quiet.
The videos are made like that in order to get passengers to watch them - you want the instructions to be followed or not?
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You might like the Chabuddy G video, it's your perrogative, but having watched the original and the newer version well into three figures, it grates and feels like 60 minutes, not 6. Ryanair get the message across in about 90 seconds with an audio only track.
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As for the NZ couple. They ignored a flight crew instruction, which is illegal. Bye bye...
That's the level of maturity the poor cabin crew have to deal with.
In the early 80's, I was flying frequently as a then ex-RAF bod in U.K. defence industry , married to a retired B.A (707/Concorde) stewardess, We often discussed cabin evacuation and "other" cabin situations.. I wrote to B.A. suggesting a scheme whereas fit and able guys in similar positions to me could be put through the relevant cabin crew training ,paid for by industry . This initiative was triggered by a situation on a BA TriStar coming back from India where the cabin crew had asked for my assistance. I had been seated by an emergency exit incidentally and not by coincidence, since this apparently was a de facto common practice at the time..My company supported the initiative. Our status would be annotated on booking, emergency exit seats allocated on check in and cabin crew alerted on crew brief. i.e. " a friend in the cabin",
At the suggestion of friends in BALPA such individuals would not partake of alcohol during the flight.
I eventually got a patronizing letter back, apparently signed by Colin Marshall, thanking me for my interest, but assuring me that all of BA's established cabin procedures were perfectly adequate.
Yes , sure.
At the suggestion of friends in BALPA such individuals would not partake of alcohol during the flight.
I eventually got a patronizing letter back, apparently signed by Colin Marshall, thanking me for my interest, but assuring me that all of BA's established cabin procedures were perfectly adequate.
Yes , sure.
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I think one advantage of the LoCo quick turnaround model is a push for a more efficient safety briefing, which probably is easier to understand. I’ve seen EZ/FR crew tell pax to listen several times before. Well done!