Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Flight Deck Forums > Rumours & News
Reload this Page >

Singapore 787-10 Rolls Royce Engine Problems

Rumours & News Reporting Points that may affect our jobs or lives as professional pilots. Also, items that may be of interest to professional pilots.

Singapore 787-10 Rolls Royce Engine Problems

Old 2nd Apr 2019, 16:03
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: London England
Age: 53
Posts: 9
Singapore 787-10 Rolls Royce Engine Problems

It would seem that Rolls Royce 787-10 Engines are suffering from a similar Problem to the Smaller 787"s

markredgwell is offline  
Old 2nd Apr 2019, 17:20
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Northern Territory Australia
Posts: 89
SQ Trent 1000

Originally Posted by markredgwell View Post
It would seem that Rolls Royce 787-10 Engines are suffering from a similar Problem to the Smaller 787"s
Its reported in a you tube clip by DJ's Aviation that 2 of the SQ fleet of 787-10 aircraft have been grounded following routine inspection, the rest (7 I gather) remain operational
No doubt there will be further speculation and comment

www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgo2cOTkb70
Gove N.T. is offline  
Old 2nd Apr 2019, 21:20
  #3 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: London England
Age: 53
Posts: 9
i had a link i wanted to post but fella fowl of being a rare poster and not posting more than 9 out of 10n times i cant post it but it would seem quite a few more have been grounded. from the
Mainly Miles Website

From the Linked PPage.there info text is in RED

The list at 12pm Singapore Time on 2nd April 2019, according to FlightRadar24, now includes:
  • 9V-SCA: On ground in Singapore since 31st March / 11.38pm
  • 9V-SCB: On ground in Singapore since 1st April / 3.13pm
  • 9V-SCC: On ground in Singapore since 28th March / 11.57pm
  • 9V-SCD: On ground in Singapore since 30th March / 8.16pm
  • 9V-SCE: On ground in Singapore since 1st April / 12.42am
  • 9V-SCF: On ground in Singapore since 1st April / 4.49pm
Today’s ‘787’ flights (2nd April)

Seven of the 13 Singapore Airlines departures from Changi that were supposed to operate on the Boeing 787-10 today have been changed to either the Airbus A330 or Boeing 777-200.
  • SQ656 (0120 to FUK). Operated by A330
  • SQ672 (0120 to NGO). Operated by A330
  • SQ618 (0125 to KIX). Operated by 787-10 (9V-SCI)
  • SQ876 (0820 to TPE). Operated by A330
  • SQ942 (0915 to DPS). Operated by 787-10 (9V-SCG)
  • SQ622 (1355 to KIX). To be operated by A330
  • SQ872 (1430 to HKG). To be operated by 777-200
  • SQ186 (1725 to SGN). To be operated by 787-10
  • SQ982 (1730 to BKK). To be operated by 787-10
  • SQ978 (1830 to BKK). To be operated by 787-10
  • SQ215 (1845 to PER). To be operated by A330
  • SQ918 (1925 to MNL). To be operated by 777-200
  • SQ638 (2355 to NRT). To be operated by 787-10
markredgwell is offline  
Old 2nd Apr 2019, 22:12
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Canberra
Posts: 0
Originally Posted by markredgwell View Post
i had a link i wanted to post from the Mainly Miles Website
this one?

Singapore Airlines has grounded over half its Boeing 787-10 fleet

Its starting to get a bit ridiculous with all the early failures and groundings of aircraft due to them being pushed into service too early and with insufficient testing, all in the name of profits...

At this rate airlines are going to need to keep a 25% buffer of "spare" aircraft, preferably from a different manufacturer, as an insurance policy, to deal with all the failures.
Dee Vee is offline  
Old 2nd Apr 2019, 22:19
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Balikpapan, INDONESIA
Age: 67
Posts: 491
Originally Posted by Dee Vee View Post
this one?

Singapore Airlines has grounded over half its Boeing 787-10 fleet

Its starting to get a bit ridiculous with all the early failures and groundings of aircraft due to them being pushed into service too early and with insufficient testing, all in the name of profits...

At this rate airlines are going to need to keep a 25% buffer of "spare" aircraft, preferably from a different manufacturer, as an insurance policy, to deal with all the failures.
Or have punitive availability guarantees sufficient to counter the rush to release new models?

WingNut60 is offline  
Old 2nd Apr 2019, 22:21
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Everett, WA
Age: 64
Posts: 2,330
Originally Posted by WingNut60 View Post
Or have punitive availability guarantees sufficient to counter the rush to release new models?
Or buy the GEnx engine option...
tdracer is offline  
Old 2nd Apr 2019, 23:50
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Aus
Posts: 46
^^ exactly!

Why anyone would order RR engines is beyond me.....
Switchbait is offline  
Old 3rd Apr 2019, 00:41
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Australia
Age: 69
Posts: 115
GEnx has problems too

Originally Posted by tdracer View Post
Or buy the GEnx engine option...
Seems the GEnx is not immune...

https://www.smh.com.au/business/comp...27-p5183s.html
JohnMcGhie is offline  
Old 3rd Apr 2019, 03:38
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Weltschmerz-By-The-Sea
Posts: 651
Originally Posted by JohnMcGhie View Post
That was a fuel contamination issue...nothing to do with the engines apart from them not running on crap fuel.
Australopithecus is offline  
Old 3rd Apr 2019, 03:40
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Weltschmerz-By-The-Sea
Posts: 651
Originally Posted by Switchbait View Post
^^ exactly!

Why anyone would order RR engines is beyond me.....
Because eventually, with penalty payments, the engines are free?
Australopithecus is offline  
Old 3rd Apr 2019, 05:49
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Sydney
Posts: 53
Originally Posted by Switchbait View Post
^^ exactly!

Why anyone would order RR engines is beyond me.....
The same reason why airlines still orders GE after design issues with the Genx on the 787 and 748.... or for that matter cfm and pw with their teething issues on the leap and gtfs...
downdata is online now  
Old 3rd Apr 2019, 06:36
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Balikpapan, INDONESIA
Age: 67
Posts: 491
Originally Posted by Australopithecus View Post


That was a fuel contamination issue...nothing to do with the engines apart from them not running on crap fuel.
Presumably fueled up in Cairns. Maybe some of that cyclone water got into the tank farm.

WingNut60 is offline  
Old 3rd Apr 2019, 06:45
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Hampshire
Age: 72
Posts: 677
According to the local media, they have grounded 2 aircraft. Others are in for inspection.
I first read this on the children's channel (you know, the one with 'airliners' in its name) yesterday morning and ran through an exercise similar to Mark's above (post #3). I too came up with similar dates/flights for the aircraft but, checking again last night and this morning, found the sky is not falling in. A good example is SQ622, shown in Mark's list as being subbed with an A330. It is at this moment airborne and is being flown by 9V-SCF.
Another example listed above is SQ672. This was flown last night by 9V-SCB, which is now flying the return leg as SQ671.
9V-SCC flew SQ876 to Taipei this morning.
KelvinD is offline  
Old 3rd Apr 2019, 08:40
  #14 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Canberra
Posts: 0
Originally Posted by WingNut60 View Post
Presumably fueled up in Cairns.
Jetstar pilots faced 'engine fail' warnings minutes before landing

The aircraft was fuelled in New Zealand before it was flown to Cairns to pick up passengers for the onward journey to Osaka on Friday.
A fuel sample has been sent for testing at a laboratory in Japan to determine whether it was contaminated. It is likely to be the end of the week before the results are completed.

However, it has been suggested that inspectors are already starting to discount fuel contamination as a cause of the mid-air incident.
Dee Vee is offline  
Old 3rd Apr 2019, 08:51
  #15 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: UK
Age: 74
Posts: 1,045
<Yawn>
All new generation engines have teething problems, this has been historically true since they were invented.
RR is no worse than GE or P&W, life goes on........
The Ancient Geek is offline  
Old 3rd Apr 2019, 22:26
  #16 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: GC Paradise
Posts: 1,012
Singapore Airlines has grounded a pair of Boeing 787-10s owing to premature deterioration of the high pressure turbine (HPT) blades in their Rolls-Royce Trent 1000 TEN engines.
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...-hpt-i-457105/
FlexibleResponse is offline  
Old 4th Apr 2019, 08:53
  #17 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Hampshire
Age: 72
Posts: 677
The flightglobal article seems not to be accurate. It states that 9V-SCF was one of the affected aircraft. Yet it flew the Osaka service yesterday.
Similarly, the other aircraft mentioned in the report, 9V-SCB is currently flying the Nagoya service.
It does seem that SCD may be affected as it has not flown since 30th March and SCE has not flown since 31st March.
KelvinD is offline  
Old 4th Apr 2019, 14:57
  #18 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: England
Posts: 246
Originally Posted by Switchbait View Post
^^ exactly!

Why anyone would order RR engines is beyond me.....
So what experience have you got of ordering such engines I wonder. Please do tell.
Buster15 is offline  
Old 4th Apr 2019, 18:28
  #19 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Surrounded by aluminum, and the great outdoors
Posts: 3,710
Originally Posted by Buster15 View Post
So what experience have you got of ordering such engines I wonder. Please do tell.

don't reckon one would need much, seeing as how there seem to be endemic problems with their products as of late...
ironbutt57 is offline  
Old 4th Apr 2019, 19:25
  #20 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Scotland
Age: 49
Posts: 137
Originally Posted by ironbutt57 View Post
don't reckon one would need much, seeing as how there seem to be endemic problems with their products as of late...
Yawn............
Thrust Augmentation is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us Archive Advertising Cookie Policy Privacy Statement Terms of Service

Copyright 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.