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Ethiopian B738 overrun at Entebbe 2019_01_03

Old 3rd Jan 2019, 09:00
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Ethiopian B738 overrun at Entebbe 2019_01_03

B738 overran 12,000 ft runway with calm wind?

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What I would give to hear the Cpt explain this one! 3600 meters!
Any Notams of displaced threshold
Massive tail wind?
WX anyone?
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B737-800 ground run once on the ground approx. 1000-1200m Runway length 3600m. Impressive to say the least!
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WX anyone?
Check the link.

As for the reason: do we know any facts yet (other than it ran off)? I'd say no, we don't.
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How about a lateral excursion. The reports only state ‘off the runway be a few meters’, not off the end of the runway.
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Originally Posted by BluSdUp
What I would give to hear the Cpt explain this one! 3600 meters!
Any Notams of displaced threshold
Massive tail wind?
WX anyone?
So first You say that You'd love to hear how the guy cocked up but then You ask for any kind of basic data regarding the event. That does not seem to be very professional, does it ? I would love to read another thread (as the majority are over here) where people try to find and discuss the root causes of an event, spread the word and enhance flight safety.
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Originally Posted by Hotel Tango
Check the link.

As for the reason: do we know any facts yet (other than it ran off)? I'd say no, we don't.
Totally agree, as far as we currently know there could be hundreds or not a single valid reason for this event.
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Originally Posted by sonicbum
So first You say that You'd love to hear how the guy cocked up but then You ask for any kind of basic data regarding the event. That does not seem to be very professional, does it ? I would love to read another thread (as the majority are over here) where people try to find and discuss the root causes of an event, spread the word and enhance flight safety.
what does PPRuNE stand for again?;-)
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Overshot

Local authorities say aircraft "overshot" and was "removed from the runway end" later.



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From ASN:
Weather reported about the incident time (2141Z, 2 Jan):
HUEN 022200Z 36002KT 9999 FEW019 FEW021CB 20/18 Q1017
HUEN 022130Z 00000KT 9999 FEW019 FEW021CB 20/18 Q1016
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So, no one got hurt and we have to wait for the report!
Or do what we do here, give it a wild guess!
Now how many hundred reasons can you think of to put a 737 in the mud on a CAVOK calm day on a 3600 meters runway?
I can think of two!
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A picture from social media:

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Now how many hundred reasons can you think of to put a 737 in the mud on a CAVOK calm day on a 3600 meters runway?
I can think of two!
Well, go on then, enlighten us!
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Cool

A picture from social media:
From the photo one may conclude they did their after landing checks properly (Flaps up). Or: they retracted the flaps during the roll-out to get more weight on the wheels for better braking.?.. Or they landed all flaps up in the first place and used the full length of the runway to keep the brakes cool. Think of any other implausible reasons for flaps and LED retracted in the photo?.
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Here's an initial report on the preliminary cause of the mishap from local media with the customary fake news picture of the plane:

Initial Findings Point to Air Pocket as Cause of
Entebbe Airport Incident – Govt

Government has said that preliminary findings regarding Thursday’s incident at Entebbe
International Airport where an Ethiopian Airlines Boeing 737-800 overshot the runway,
indicate that it was due to an airpocket.

The Ethiopian Airlines Flight No. ET 338, a Boeing 737-800 overshot the runway at
Entebbe airport on landing at 12.41am causing delays in inbound aircrafts.

The affected inbound international flights included Turkish Airlines, Kenya Airways,
Egypt Air and Rwanda Air, which all had incoming morning flights.

However, aircrafts of other air operators, which were on the ground before the incident
were able to depart.

The Minister for Works and Transport, Monica Azuba Ntege while addressing the press
at the airport on Thursday afternoon said that preliminary findings point to an air
pocket as the cause of the overshooting.

“I want to emphasize here, I have seen reports in the media that the plane crash landed.
What happened was overshooting,” the Minister said.

“Initial reports say that according to the pilot, as they were landing, they met what to me
I would refer to as an air pocket. They missed the touchline and landed a little bit off,”
she told journalists.

She said that the pilot of the aircraft was in touch with the airport staff.
In aviation, the colloquial term ‘air pocket’ refers to a jolt of turbulence. It also refers to
strong updraft, downdraft, or sudden fall in headwind or tailwind encountered by an aircraft
in flight.

The Minister revealed that she was set to institute a team, as required by international
aviation standards, to carry out a comprehensive investigation into the cause of Thursday’s
incident.

In line with international practice, Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) issued a Notice to Airmen
(NOTAM) temporarily stopping incoming flights from outside the country until after
the aircraft had been safely removed from the runway end.

The Minister said the NOTAM was issued at 6:40am after the personnel involved in
efforts to tow the aircraft realized they could no longer clear the runway in the anticipated
time.

“When it came to 6:40am, they realized they have to inform all the other aircrafts to let
them know that the runway safety was compromised. That is really the reason for the
NOTAM,” she said.

She lauded the stakeholders and staffers for a job well done to ensure the operations
resume in the shortest time possible.


https://www.softpower.ug/initial-fin...incident-govt/
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Ahh
The Old airpocket, that explains it!
Told you I would wait for the report!
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That is a 787. Says a lot for the "authorities"
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Morphing from a 737 into a 787 would explain longer landing distance. And looking at both pictures posted so far its a 737 from the left side and 787 from the right. Tough for pilots to handle a plane in that configuration.
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That is a 787. Says a lot for the "authorities"
Well no, it says a lot for the Ugandan media.
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