BA Wetlease
BA has long wet-leased aircraft in as required to meet capacity shortfalls, for all sorts of reasons, from fleet issues to increases in demand beyond the normal fleet planning process. I recall back in the late 1970s Britannia Airways 737s at Heathrow (otherwise quite unknown there) which were covering yet another fleet issue on the Tridents.
Anyone remember the N-registered American Trans Air 727, with minimal BA titles, on London-Glasgow ?
We, too, were on a Titan sub earlier in the year, which I quite looked forward to having heard other accounts, and although a 767 sub for a 737-800 load gave plenty of space, the crew all round were distinctly underwhelming.
Anyone remember the N-registered American Trans Air 727, with minimal BA titles, on London-Glasgow ?
We, too, were on a Titan sub earlier in the year, which I quite looked forward to having heard other accounts, and although a 767 sub for a 737-800 load gave plenty of space, the crew all round were distinctly underwhelming.
Apart from the Titan (733/734 A320 757) and Qatar hardware that BA are subbing at present, also include the Privatair 737-700 doing up to 3 round trips a day from LGW, and an Air Belgium A340-300 at LHR doing CAI and SVO. The former Finnair aircraft is in 18J/21W/264Y configuration.
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I think to be fair though if you’re super senior you’re still going to get pretty decent satisfaction out of it, except the days of Short Haul guys coming in for ten or eleven high credit day trips and taking the rest of the month off are going to be a thing of the past. Likewise super senior on Long Haul aren’t going to be doing 3/4 Cape Towns every month. Everybody else though I imagine will get a shafting, the firmness of said shafting will depend on your place on the list. Sorry for drifting it back to JSS.
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I've just flown as a pax on a Titan 737-400 which was an ex BA aircraft and I have to say the service was excellent, the leg room good and the you get a complimentary drink and a decent sandwich (none of this Marks and Sparks twaddle) It felt like being on a British airline if you can understand that and had an identity in that Monarch kind of way.
Titan are a class act in part because their CC are trained for VIP & silver service standards, classy uniforms and great attitudes.
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BA short haul are absolutely rubbish, tired interiors, leg room in economy an utter joke, BA Cityflyer puts them to shame ditto Aer Lingus, Ryanair have more leg room.
Titan are a class act in part because their CC are trained for VIP & silver service standards, classy uniforms and great attitudes.
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Therefore, after TO, we were subjected to a procession of said large gentlemen wanting access to said huge bags in order to retrieve whatever they had omitted to have available about their persons for the duration of the flight.
The BA curtain, policed by the crew, prevents this unseemly, disruptive procession which we pay extra to avoid.
The crew were willing, cheerful and smart, but had no control over the behaviours described above which makes me wish I had not paid the extra for ‘J’.
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That's what I had heard, so was almost like I was on a Titan (767) from a parallel universe. Spaced out cabin crew, most time spent in galley gossip. Dreary 1970s brown uniforms. And an extraordinarily snappy and non-CRM commander who gave a high volume rollocking at door 1L to the dispatcher in full view of the pax in the forward cabin.
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If you enjoy getting served by identikit female robots going through the motions devoid of any emotion, drained of all joy for life (much like a tired call girl questioning her life choices), yes you’ll love it. Good hard product though, absolutely.
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i often think what a wonderful job our cabin crew do.
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They need both and they need them.... yesterday. The word is that the recruiters want to get moving and get offers out to the candidates already interviewed so they can tender their 3 months notice to current employers, but the bean-counters won't approve the expenditure in this years' budget so no offers going out until Jan 2019.
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The QR A330 leasing has nothing to do with Strike breaking! To cover aircraft shortfalls due ongoing B787 engine problems. As QR have a substantial share in IAG seems an eminently suitable arrangement.
I assume the reference was to last year's lease of Qatar A320s to mitigate the effects of the mixed fleet cabin crew strike. But you probably knew that.
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The shorthaul leases are due to the acquisition of slots from Monarch at LGW. Impossible to ramp up aircraft and crew resources that quickly but needed to operate slots under 80/20 rules hence wet leases.
Qatar and shortly Air Belgium leases on long haul due to 787 aircraft grounded (5 at the moment I think) due to Rolls Royce Trent engine issues and subsequent operating restrictions enforced.
Qatar and shortly Air Belgium leases on long haul due to 787 aircraft grounded (5 at the moment I think) due to Rolls Royce Trent engine issues and subsequent operating restrictions enforced.
Just saw this too (A340 lease):
https://www.mro-network.com/airlines/british-airways-lease-air-belgium-a340s-787-trent-engines-are-inspected?NL=AW-022&Issue=AW-022_20180912_AW-022_848&sfvc4enews=42&cl=article_1&utm_rid=CPEN1000001584591 &utm_campaign=16337&utm_medium=email&elq2=6fa7f7241fb04c129a 67513b3771974b
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I've just flown as a pax on a Titan 737-400 which was an ex BA aircraft and I have to say the service was excellent, the leg room good and the you get a complimentary drink and a decent sandwich (none of this Marks and Sparks twaddle) It felt like being on a British airline if you can understand that and had an identity in that Monarch kind of way.