Someone stole a Q400 from Seattle?
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That poor man and his family.
That radio call was tragic and to hear his last words was gut wrenching.
Please guys, treat this with the respect it deserves and have some empathy when speaking about this individual.
Yes it was dangerous but it was clear he intended to hurt no one and thank god he didn’t. Now his family have to live with this for the rest of their lives.
My heart goes out to the family and friends of this poor man.
That radio call was tragic and to hear his last words was gut wrenching.
Please guys, treat this with the respect it deserves and have some empathy when speaking about this individual.
Yes it was dangerous but it was clear he intended to hurt no one and thank god he didn’t. Now his family have to live with this for the rest of their lives.
My heart goes out to the family and friends of this poor man.
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I have to say that every day that goes I get more interested in Human Performance and Limitations.
This time : Take away the ultimate filter and the envelope is expanded.
Unfortunately suicide is to a certain degree " contagious" so lets hope this does not give anyone any ideas!
As fare as stopping this in security, impossible as he was said to be a mechanic.
And he did not put any pilot to shame .
Any aircraft can be rolled and most of them looped. But a loop is mad in most transport cat aircraft.
To bad he did not get any help with his Demons.
A pitty with the aircraft.
Sad relay.
But could not be helped , as we live in a free society.
May his soul find rest!
Cpt B
This time : Take away the ultimate filter and the envelope is expanded.
Unfortunately suicide is to a certain degree " contagious" so lets hope this does not give anyone any ideas!
As fare as stopping this in security, impossible as he was said to be a mechanic.
And he did not put any pilot to shame .
Any aircraft can be rolled and most of them looped. But a loop is mad in most transport cat aircraft.
To bad he did not get any help with his Demons.
A pitty with the aircraft.
Sad relay.
But could not be helped , as we live in a free society.
May his soul find rest!
Cpt B
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Does the aircraft insurance cover this theft ?
The estate after the perpetrator can for sure not cover this..
Where I come from simple theft (eg. cars) are not covered by insurance, but it's covered if tools have been used to steal the object (burglary), or if someone have been trying to stop the thief (robbery).
The estate after the perpetrator can for sure not cover this..
Where I come from simple theft (eg. cars) are not covered by insurance, but it's covered if tools have been used to steal the object (burglary), or if someone have been trying to stop the thief (robbery).
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Here’s a Cessna type throttle lock. So your plane doesn’t get nicked while it’s parked. They can cost as little, and be as simple, as this one for $13.95: SKYLOCK - AIRCRAFT THROTTLE LOCK from Aircraft Spruce I would think that the fuel control switches might be an easy place to fit a “thing” over, preventing unauthorised or unintended use. Crew or Mx arrive, take it off, end of checklist. And judging by the $13.95 model, they wouldn’t have to cost $50,000 apiece.
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Also on a practical point of view did he take off from the runway? I'm sure that he did not obtain clearance so might actually be a bit messy...
In any case he cleary knew something of flying and the Q400 to get as far as he did...
bunk exceeder, the guy involved would have had a key to the throttle lock as he would have been authorised.
There's no 100% surefire way to stop this sort of incident occurring.
There's no 100% surefire way to stop this sort of incident occurring.
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Surely had someone realised that plane wasn't supposed to be moving at that time then it could have been intercepted a lot earlier.
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Do not know that companies or the airports procedures but maybe they allow maintenance taxi authority to position aircraft to remote stands for overnight parking, maintenance etc, so could have seemed quite normal until the last minute.
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The Alaska COO on TV said that Rich, who took the Q400, was a customer service agent. Not Mx. So as a CSA, would not have a key. As we leave them unlocked and they don’t need a key, perhaps a bit of tin over the “GO” switches might help prevent this again? Lots of planes spend the night at regional airports that are not pulled up to jetways.
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Distance: PDX-SEA - 112nm. Nothing closer to scramble?
Horizon Airlines-Ground Service Agent.
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Not the first time this type of incident has happened.
Botswana in 1999 https://aviation-safety.net/database...?id=19991011-0
Botswana in 1999 https://aviation-safety.net/database...?id=19991011-0
Immensely sad really given the ATC recordings, and I for one appreciated Alaska/Horizon immediately paying condolences to the friends and family rather than trying to spin this somehow, a but of humanity from an airline.
