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Trent 1000 losses

Old 11th Aug 2018, 09:41
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Originally Posted by msbbarratt View Post
RR recognised the need for a strong education programme long ago, and has a centre in Derby specifically for it. It's pretty good and competition to get on their apprenticeship scheme is strong. Quite a few large companies do this kind of thing here in the UK, having realised that mainstream education is no longer focused on churning out youngsters with good technical skills.

Apprenticeships are increasingly seen as a better idea compared to degrees. Getting on to a good apprenticeship scheme means you're earning a salary, building up pension, getting a college education, and being tailored to be a very useful employee with excellent prospects. Going to university means being saddled with 40k+ debt, 3, 4 years less pension, likely still learning on the job and possibly starting underneath someone who did the apprenticeship.
This mindset was well in place when I was an apprentice in the 1970s in a manufacturer of aircraft equipment in the UK. Office staff had far better T&Cs than the skilled shop floor personnel, and said shop floor personnel could earn more in non-skilled jobs outside the engineering industry. At one point in the company I worked for a fork-lift driver was on better pay than a fully-skilled fitter.

No wonder there is a dearth of personnel in the aviation engineering industry.
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Old 21st Sep 2018, 16:38
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I'm always a little cautious about PR releases written, like this one, in the Future tense. RR "is completing development" just sounds like something written to try to tide things over, as opposed to "has completed development", which tells us they have actually got the fix.
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Old 21st Sep 2018, 17:10
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Originally Posted by Thaihawk View Post
This mindset was well in place when I was an apprentice in the 1970s in a manufacturer of aircraft equipment in the UK. Office staff had far better T&Cs than the skilled shop floor personnel, and said shop floor personnel could earn more in non-skilled jobs outside the engineering industry. At one point in the company I worked for a fork-lift driver was on better pay than a fully-skilled fitter.

No wonder there is a dearth of personnel in the aviation engineering industry.
And this crap is still going on check some of there adverts on aviationjobsearch 16 an hour for highly skilled fitters for ryanair in Lithuania and 32 for a type rated licensed B737 engineer as you rightly say the T&Cs nowadays are atrocious.
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Old 21st Sep 2018, 19:10
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No wonder there is a dearth of personnel in the aviation engineering industry.
Indeed, it was ever thus. I remember wondering if I'd done the right thing when I looked in the company carpark full of Porsches and this years model of hot hatch. All driven by very smartly dressed cabin crew.
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Old 22nd Sep 2018, 00:34
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Originally Posted by matkat View Post
And this crap is still going on check some of there adverts on aviationjobsearch 16 an hour for highly skilled fitters for ryanair in Lithuania and 32 for a type rated licensed B737 engineer as you rightly say the T&Cs nowadays are atrocious.
plenty of gingerbeers from eastern Europe to depress the rate these days...
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Old 11th Feb 2019, 07:31
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For those that are interested...….Rolls-Royce spends two billion dollars a year on R&D.

Rolls-Royce?s Cultured Pearl: Engine Maker?s Latest Bizav Entry | Program Management Corner content from Aviation Week
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Old 11th Feb 2019, 16:45
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The North American pilot shortage got its start in the 80s as flight training became steadily more expensive as young people's wages stagnated, making for steadily fewer pilots looking for work at very poor wages, a product of a then long time surplus of pilots.
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