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They'll stop looking at the end of this month. I have serious doubts as to whether anyone else will jump on the "find or no fee" offering. The problem with theories and hypotheses is that it's a good sized puzzle, and there are a goodly number of pieces missing from the box. All pictures are incomplete.
They'll stop looking at the end of this month. I have serious doubts as to whether anyone else will jump on the "find or no fee" offering. The problem with theories and hypotheses is that it's a good sized puzzle, and there are a goodly number of pieces missing from the box. All pictures are incomplete.
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"Deliberate disabling of transponder". :total speculation. "Set a course and rode it down" :not even speculation-there's not a shred of evidence to support that.
"The conclusion is pretty clear..". Not it isn't. The fact is we don't know. It's only "clear" if you substitute speculation for fact and make a join-the-dots with five dots into the Mona Lisa
"The conclusion is pretty clear..". Not it isn't. The fact is we don't know. It's only "clear" if you substitute speculation for fact and make a join-the-dots with five dots into the Mona Lisa
ShotOne, the course change to the west appears from the evidence to have been timed a bit too conviently with the non check in with Viet Nam ATC and transponder signal lost. The posted track points to human agency. Given how tightly the Malaysian government held on to various bits of information, the lack of clarity seems to have been amplified for political reasons.
Hoss183, that route you posted was dated just 1 week after the aircraft went missing. It is not the officially recognised route. In fact, the latest civilian radar tracks seem to show a meandering path, perhaps with the aircraft flying phugoids—- it was not being controlled by anyone!
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Not quite correct. There are certain extenuating circumstances when it is permitted. Death by flying aircraft into buildings and exploding apparel are some examples. This therefore means, motive is paramount in pursuing a hypothesis of this being down to the pilot. Very much a case of "what on earth could have possessed him".
If the aircraft did spike-in after fuel exhaustion, would there be any significant wreckage to find? Or is the very expensive search looking for two engines at the bottom of an ocean?
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As I understand it, the search is essentially looking for the engines and a debris field. Given the amount of junk they've found, I don't seem much of a reason to believe they couldn't spot that if they're searching the correct area.
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BTW, they're apparently now searching the long-awaited area where the flightpath to McMurdo crosses the sound from the underwater acoustic event an hour after the crash, and the 7th arc.
It may be a coincidence, but it would be a pretty odd one. Fingers crossed they'll have it by the end of the week.
It may be a coincidence, but it would be a pretty odd one. Fingers crossed they'll have it by the end of the week.
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(responding to whether the last 6 hours of flight were "straight").
The Inmarsat data is very suggestive of a straight line. And, given certain reasonable assumptions, denotes travel to the South or Southwest.
The Inmarsat data is not so precise that you could conclude that the flight path was straight. You have to include other considerations (such as what good would minor turns be in the middle of nowhere) to reach the presumption that the flight was straight.
The Inmarsat data is not so precise that you could conclude that the flight path was straight. You have to include other considerations (such as what good would minor turns be in the middle of nowhere) to reach the presumption that the flight was straight.
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I agree. Given what both searches have turned up - and especially this recent one (Ocean Infinity) the two engines should be no problem for them even if there is nothing else.
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...cid=spartandhp
They'll stop looking at the end of this month. I have serious doubts as to whether anyone else will jump on the "find or no fee" offering. The problem with theories and hypotheses is that it's a good sized puzzle, and there are a goodly number of pieces missing from the box. All pictures are incomplete.
They'll stop looking at the end of this month. I have serious doubts as to whether anyone else will jump on the "find or no fee" offering. The problem with theories and hypotheses is that it's a good sized puzzle, and there are a goodly number of pieces missing from the box. All pictures are incomplete.
BTW: The weekly report on the search activity was due out yesterday. As of a few minutes ago, it still hadn't been released. This happened a couple of weeks ago as well - it was about two days late then.
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A quick look at marinetraffic.com shows a surprising number of vessels in and around the search area today.
I dont know about march 2014 but surely with that many ships crisscrossing the general area something must have been seen in the water in the days afterwards ? Its almost implausable that NO seafarer on any of the vessels in that remote area of ocean noticed the rumble of an overflying aircraft. Someone mentioned earlier that an unknown vessel was seen to track at speed to a point in the search area and then leave, i wonder why no mention has been made of that ?
Just reading the old updates on the search site gives me the impression of a sanitised and very politically correct/ diplomatically appropriate platter of generalised morsels of information.
if we ever do find it , it better not be where the hardys and vance’s say it could be.....the dolans and foleys would surely be forced into a political career or Even a position in the ABC....the shame !
I dont know about march 2014 but surely with that many ships crisscrossing the general area something must have been seen in the water in the days afterwards ? Its almost implausable that NO seafarer on any of the vessels in that remote area of ocean noticed the rumble of an overflying aircraft. Someone mentioned earlier that an unknown vessel was seen to track at speed to a point in the search area and then leave, i wonder why no mention has been made of that ?
Just reading the old updates on the search site gives me the impression of a sanitised and very politically correct/ diplomatically appropriate platter of generalised morsels of information.
if we ever do find it , it better not be where the hardys and vance’s say it could be.....the dolans and foleys would surely be forced into a political career or Even a position in the ABC....the shame !
"deliberately disabling the transponder"
It probably was deliberate but not intentionally deliberate. I had an emergency a few years back, which actually turned out to be two mutually exclusive events that came together at the same time which caused us "the entire crew" that we had a fuel leak. Without getting into the event, my first officer not only selected standby on the transponder prior to setting 7700 he didn't switch it back on either. I only noticed because the TCAS was off. A case of unintentional but deliberately disabled. How many of us in the heat of the moment would forget you dont need to select standby when changing codes.
It probably was deliberate but not intentionally deliberate. I had an emergency a few years back, which actually turned out to be two mutually exclusive events that came together at the same time which caused us "the entire crew" that we had a fuel leak. Without getting into the event, my first officer not only selected standby on the transponder prior to setting 7700 he didn't switch it back on either. I only noticed because the TCAS was off. A case of unintentional but deliberately disabled. How many of us in the heat of the moment would forget you dont need to select standby when changing codes.
I guess that depends on the length of time an individual has been using the equipment in question...I suspect for many here the reflex/ conditioning/muscle memory involved with selecting standby for a code change has long gone.
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"deliberately disabling the transponder"
It probably was deliberate but not intentionally deliberate. I had an emergency a few years back, which actually turned out to be two mutually exclusive events that came together at the same time which caused us "the entire crew" that we had a fuel leak. Without getting into the event, my first officer not only selected standby on the transponder prior to setting 7700 he didn't switch it back on either. I only noticed because the TCAS was off. A case of unintentional but deliberately disabled. How many of us in the heat of the moment would forget you dont need to select standby when changing codes.
It probably was deliberate but not intentionally deliberate. I had an emergency a few years back, which actually turned out to be two mutually exclusive events that came together at the same time which caused us "the entire crew" that we had a fuel leak. Without getting into the event, my first officer not only selected standby on the transponder prior to setting 7700 he didn't switch it back on either. I only noticed because the TCAS was off. A case of unintentional but deliberately disabled. How many of us in the heat of the moment would forget you dont need to select standby when changing codes.
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The weekly Malaysian Search report is out for the week ending Sunday, May 20.
Ocean Infinity has completed 8,000 sqKm of Site 4. Site 4 is planned as the fourth and final site to be search this season (or perhaps at all). It is roughly 20,000 sqKm in area.
At the rate they are going, they won't quite complete Site 4 by the end on this reporting period (May 27).
The report states: "Weather and sea conditions are forecasted to be moderate for the week ahead, however it is not expected to disrupt the search operations."
Ocean Infinity has completed 8,000 sqKm of Site 4. Site 4 is planned as the fourth and final site to be search this season (or perhaps at all). It is roughly 20,000 sqKm in area.
At the rate they are going, they won't quite complete Site 4 by the end on this reporting period (May 27).
The report states: "Weather and sea conditions are forecasted to be moderate for the week ahead, however it is not expected to disrupt the search operations."
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As some here have reached conclusions based on aircraft track it's worth examining the course depicted at post#16. It depicts ruler-straight lines with two turns through around 130 degrees at a point in space. It's simply not possible to turn an airliner that sharply.
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I note , today, that Peter Foley MH370 Search Programme Director in an Estimates Hearing in the Australian Parliament on 22nd May said " There's no earthly reason why someone in control of an aircraft would exhaust its fuel and then attempt to glide it when they have the option of ditching."
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Consider the scale of the map -
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Yes, conso at that scale the image is not an accurate depiction of the aircraft course. Secondly, why turn back anyway? With the empty South China Sea and vastness of the Pacific Ocean ahead and almost out of radar cover, why turn back to overfly a densely populated peninsula where the aircraft was sure to be tracked on radar? I don’t claim to know the cause but, surely this turn weighs against criminal intent rather than “proving” it