A319 FO windshield blowout
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Please excuse my poor English. Whether Captain Sully or Captain Liu, I find that a good professional pilot has something in common: always be prepared to deal with abornmals. They have done their duty with the most honest. I remember Captain Sully answered a similar question in the famous 60 Minutes Interview. He said , I had no time to look after others and by that time I had to go all out to fly.
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The update： Attendant shouted, We Have The Confidence To Safely Landing!
May 14 4:10 P.M., one of flight 3u8633 passengers, 25-Year-old Phuntsog just returned to the home in Lhasa. Recalling the incident,in addition to fright, he felt more warmth. Phuntsog was dozing off at the time of the incident. With such a loud "bang", he was suddenly awakened. The plane weightlessness down, oxygen masks also fell down, the flight attendants hurriedly help everyone put on oxygen masks.
"Except the moment of weightlessness, rest of the flying is quite smooth." Phuntsog said, but the panic still spread in the cabin, some passengers began to vomit, he also felt the hands are numb. He knew very well that he was going through an accident, but there was nothing to do about it.
"One of the 'buddies'sitting next to me looked up at me and asked me what happened." Phuntsog said, the man who has never met before help him rub his hands, comfort him not nervous.He felt his hands better, but his heart was still uneasy. The cabin was out of power and the cabin PA system couldn't work. "Suddenly, I heard a flight attendant shouting at everyone's throat: 'Please believe us, we have the confidence to be able to take you to the ground!'"
Hearing this, Phuntsog's heart suddenly bright."That's a very important thing in that atmosphere!We understand that the crew has done everything in their power to do what it takes to wait."
All flight attendants worked as usual such as serving waters to the passengers. In such an atmosphere,the passengers remained remarkably consistent and peace during the entire landing. Phuntsog deeply hugged the passenger of in his next seat each other at the moment of the plane successfully landing on the Shuangliu airport.
He wrote lovingly in his circle of friends:"Thanks to the pilots and flight attendants of the 3u8633, it was your composure that created the crash-landing miracle. I give you my praise!"
Sorry for my poor translation and unable to inset the images of accident cabin here.
May 14 4:10 P.M., one of flight 3u8633 passengers, 25-Year-old Phuntsog just returned to the home in Lhasa. Recalling the incident,in addition to fright, he felt more warmth. Phuntsog was dozing off at the time of the incident. With such a loud "bang", he was suddenly awakened. The plane weightlessness down, oxygen masks also fell down, the flight attendants hurriedly help everyone put on oxygen masks.
"Except the moment of weightlessness, rest of the flying is quite smooth." Phuntsog said, but the panic still spread in the cabin, some passengers began to vomit, he also felt the hands are numb. He knew very well that he was going through an accident, but there was nothing to do about it.
"One of the 'buddies'sitting next to me looked up at me and asked me what happened." Phuntsog said, the man who has never met before help him rub his hands, comfort him not nervous.He felt his hands better, but his heart was still uneasy. The cabin was out of power and the cabin PA system couldn't work. "Suddenly, I heard a flight attendant shouting at everyone's throat: 'Please believe us, we have the confidence to be able to take you to the ground!'"
Hearing this, Phuntsog's heart suddenly bright."That's a very important thing in that atmosphere!We understand that the crew has done everything in their power to do what it takes to wait."
All flight attendants worked as usual such as serving waters to the passengers. In such an atmosphere,the passengers remained remarkably consistent and peace during the entire landing. Phuntsog deeply hugged the passenger of in his next seat each other at the moment of the plane successfully landing on the Shuangliu airport.
He wrote lovingly in his circle of friends:"Thanks to the pilots and flight attendants of the 3u8633, it was your composure that created the crash-landing miracle. I give you my praise!"
Sorry for my poor translation and unable to inset the images of accident cabin here.
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From: China
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From: China
Update: Nice To Be Alive
A passenger's note on his smart phone and send to his friends.
In May 14, 2018, 3U8633, Chengdu Shuangliu Airport, I just experienced a life and death.
From Chongqing to Lhasa, the route that I had taken countless times, I slept on my seat as usual. The stewardess woke me up to the breakfast time. As usual, I reckon how long it will take to get to Lhasa. The shock always happens in a sudden break. Suddenly, there was a loud noise at the top of the plane, the cabin suddenly darkened, the oxygen mask fell in front of me, and the plane began to fall as fast as it was, just for a moment. My mind was blank. After seeing around, it was confirmed that it was not my dream. Then I wore mechanically the oxygen mask according to the instructions of the stewardess. After the blanks, there was a surge of fear. I was clearly know I was going to experience an bad accident, and I had no way to do it. When I realized that I couldn't do anything about survival, depression, fear and panic began to fill me. I always thought I was not afraid of death, but when you really faced death and could do nothing, I was like a fish that had just been put into the boiling water and was attacked by little bits of death. I can see clearly that the iceberg beneath the plane and they are only about a kilometer away. Real depression just started. I feel the despair in the eyes of the passengers around, perhaps they can also feel my despair.
Of course, I am still alive and lovely now. Just like fairy tales, pilot has become hero in the twinkling of an eye. He gradually controlled the situation, changed direction, flew to Chengdu, and then landed on the runway of Shuangliu Airport. Hanging heart also slowly landed, trance seems to have gone through a dream, to be thrilling, and finally returned to peace. I am seating in the cabin now, waiting for the trailer to pull the plane to safe area and the all the cabin is just back to life.
It's not clear how I feel now. To escape or to die? Thank you for pilots and stewardess. Save me alive without death at such a young age. I can only say one thing: it's nice to be alive.
A passenger's note on his smart phone and send to his friends.
In May 14, 2018, 3U8633, Chengdu Shuangliu Airport, I just experienced a life and death.
From Chongqing to Lhasa, the route that I had taken countless times, I slept on my seat as usual. The stewardess woke me up to the breakfast time. As usual, I reckon how long it will take to get to Lhasa. The shock always happens in a sudden break. Suddenly, there was a loud noise at the top of the plane, the cabin suddenly darkened, the oxygen mask fell in front of me, and the plane began to fall as fast as it was, just for a moment. My mind was blank. After seeing around, it was confirmed that it was not my dream. Then I wore mechanically the oxygen mask according to the instructions of the stewardess. After the blanks, there was a surge of fear. I was clearly know I was going to experience an bad accident, and I had no way to do it. When I realized that I couldn't do anything about survival, depression, fear and panic began to fill me. I always thought I was not afraid of death, but when you really faced death and could do nothing, I was like a fish that had just been put into the boiling water and was attacked by little bits of death. I can see clearly that the iceberg beneath the plane and they are only about a kilometer away. Real depression just started. I feel the despair in the eyes of the passengers around, perhaps they can also feel my despair.
Of course, I am still alive and lovely now. Just like fairy tales, pilot has become hero in the twinkling of an eye. He gradually controlled the situation, changed direction, flew to Chengdu, and then landed on the runway of Shuangliu Airport. Hanging heart also slowly landed, trance seems to have gone through a dream, to be thrilling, and finally returned to peace. I am seating in the cabin now, waiting for the trailer to pull the plane to safe area and the all the cabin is just back to life.
It's not clear how I feel now. To escape or to die? Thank you for pilots and stewardess. Save me alive without death at such a young age. I can only say one thing: it's nice to be alive.
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Just a thought.... Not sure if the video online is of this incident but.....
There is a video from the cockpit of the windshield shorting out and arcing. The video is approximately 45 seconds long. It shows the short starting, growing, and the crew doing nothing but video.
I am wondering which "Emergency Procedure" they applied. There is a procedure for Window Arcing in the A320 QRH. The procedure is to pull circuit breakers as noted in the QRH. I can guarantee it does not say pull phone and start video.
If in fact they had performed the arcing procedure, perhaps they would not have had to conduct the Emergency Decent procedure nor deal with any missing FCU issues.
There is a video from the cockpit of the windshield shorting out and arcing. The video is approximately 45 seconds long. It shows the short starting, growing, and the crew doing nothing but video.
I am wondering which "Emergency Procedure" they applied. There is a procedure for Window Arcing in the A320 QRH. The procedure is to pull circuit breakers as noted in the QRH. I can guarantee it does not say pull phone and start video.
If in fact they had performed the arcing procedure, perhaps they would not have had to conduct the Emergency Decent procedure nor deal with any missing FCU issues.
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Interesting Liu said he reduced speed with F/O hanging out of the window. Very understandable. It would be a bit of a dilemma deciding what speed to descend at. The pax have 15mins O2. They can survive without O2 <15000', even 18000'. Priority would be to recover F/O. The interview suggested the whole manoeuvre might have been in manual control. Then very good piloting to navigate and land using raw data and manual control. One assumes ATC became workable once a lower level and slower speed and they could help with vectors.
A well done and medal required, plus pension enhancement. In fact a whip-round amongst the pax would be justified.
A well done and medal required, plus pension enhancement. In fact a whip-round amongst the pax would be justified.
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This video of arcing that is circulating online is not an A319 !
In the A320 family aircraft I would hope crews are actually aware of the QRH procedure , know where to find the CBs quickly and not start filming with their iPhone trying to be the next social media star.
In the A320 family aircraft I would hope crews are actually aware of the QRH procedure , know where to find the CBs quickly and not start filming with their iPhone trying to be the next social media star.
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Good work! The QRH procedures would definitely not be applicable in this event. A good example of why skill and airmanship is still required, despite the best efforts of the industry to make them obsolete!
Would like your explanation for that, not familiar with the A319
But in the real world, the aircraft doesn't really care what the designers thinks it should be doing and it breaks down in many various and inventive ways. In the last five years, I have had four major events in Airbus types and not one of them was resolved by the pre-determined actions as defined by the ECAM (Engine Control and Monitoring System). In fact, in one case, following the ECAM procedure would have made the situation far worse by depressurising the cabin. In all these four cases, it required airmanship,experience and systems knowledge to achieve a safe and satisfactory outcome.
Current training is being cut back to the bare minimum based on the assumption that modern aircraft are so automated that they will look after themselves. The result that training is very heavily procedure based. Rigid Standard Operating Procedures are now the industry standard and there is essentially no flexibility outside these rules leading to the loss of airmanship and basic flying skills I alluded to.
Luckily, passengers have had Captains Chesney Sullenburger, Tammie Jo Shults and Liu Shunjian with their experience, skill and airmanship to get them back to earth safely. The current trend means this type of pilot is becoming increasingly rare.
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This video of arcing that is circulating online is not an A319 !
In the A320 family aircraft I would hope crews are actually aware of the QRH procedure , know where to find the CBs quickly and not start filming with their iPhone trying to be the next social media star.
In the A320 family aircraft I would hope crews are actually aware of the QRH procedure , know where to find the CBs quickly and not start filming with their iPhone trying to be the next social media star.
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