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AEI makes a stand against deteriorating safety standards.

Old 17th Apr 2018, 19:43
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Maybe LBA demonstrated safeguards that satisfied the auditors?
It is a matter of great concern in respect of an audit carried out in 2015, that there is an open finding on this issue which can only mean that LBA have not corrected their procedures.
If they had satisfied the auditors why is the finding still open?

But think about what you just said. You are the captain with a licence. Next to you sits an unlicensed co-pilot and the regulator tells you its perfectly ok for the co-pilot to take all the decisions and you as the captain are not to check his flying.

I challenge you to find a way of satisfying the auditors on that one.
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Old 18th Apr 2018, 07:55
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The exact wording in the document from AEI was:
"and this would have had to result in a finding which
ought to have been of"

That sounds like an awful lot of supposition. So what are the facts? Was there a finding, what was the finding and how was it retired, if it was retired?

Unless someone finds the audit report, we can speculate all day long. And if we don't even know that there was a finding, how can you assume it is still open?
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Old 18th Apr 2018, 15:33
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I would expect an organisation representing people just like a government to do their homework. I would also expect them not to have to justify everything to a nobody.

If they dont have sufficient evidence it wouldnt be speculative what they have done it would be stupid.

I would like to know how the eu reacted.
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Old 18th Apr 2018, 16:33
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Unless someone finds the audit report, we can speculate all day long. And if we don't even know that there was a finding, how can you assume it is still open?
There is an outstanding finding. If you are in any doubt then contact the AEI they can explain that this is the case.

When EASA audited a Turkish Part 145 they stopped them from doing the same thing, EASA as you probably know audit non EU part 145's, but when they came across the same thing via the LBA they could not enforce change, but raised a finding, they have to go the EU/EC to enforce change apparently. The fact that they stopped the Turkish Part 145 shows you what EASA thinks of this procedure but to a large extent have become 'powerless' to stop it within EU NAA's...... bonkers.
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Old 18th Apr 2018, 21:10
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EASA and Turkish shows what can be done. So if the EU NAA's all agreed to allow EASA enforcement, then the system is fixed. However, the NAA's (read member states) do not want to relinquish control.

I honestly believe regional safety, rather than state safety, could and should deliver its plan. However, my country wants a blue passport (albeit made in another member state).

The UK set a high bar -

https://www.gov.uk/government/statis...-and-incidents
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Old 22nd Apr 2018, 07:03
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https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...y-aviation-CAA
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Old 24th Apr 2018, 09:26
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perhaps somebody should have a word in the FAAs ear. Prohibiting all aircraft maintained in this manner from US airspace would get attention, and the US regulators love coming down hard on EU institutions, ref billion dollar bank fines etc.

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