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Old 19th Apr 2018, 15:30
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Delta Airline engine fire

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ai...tlanta-n867296

A new trend, no evaquation with smoke/fire?
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Old 19th Apr 2018, 15:54
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Originally Posted by ManaAdaSystem
A new trend, no evaquation with smoke/fire?
No hurry Down South in ATL, it's only a fire , from the article linked above:

Gobeil said there were no reports of injuries, and the passengers disembarked from the plane approximately an hour after the emergency landing.
But seriously, an evac with fire trucks running around can have its own threats as with OZ214.

The most important question on PPRuNe will be whether the Deltoid crew used proper R/T procedures while on fire.
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Captain's decision..no one injured..right call.
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When in trouble,
When in doubt,
Drop the slides, scream and shout.

Or, let ARFF do their job as you sit in the comfy chair and get paid for another hour while you monitor the situation.
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Wrong, but Ill leave it to others to explain why.
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The video doesn't show the correct A/C but the audio clearly explains why they didn't evacuate.Well handled by all.
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Bit of jibber about frequencies for fire vehicle/aircraft comms. We have a nation-wide freq to talk to the Fire Commander on, 131.0, published in AIP.
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Originally Posted by Capn Bloggs
Bit of jibber about frequencies for fire vehicle/aircraft comms. We have a nation-wide freq to talk to the Fire Commander on, 131.0, published in AIP.
And in both of my RTO events that ended up as a cluster f*ck, so having a dedicated frequency is only a perceived benefit.
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And in both of my RTO events that ended up as a cluster f*ck, so having a dedicated frequency is only a perceived benefit.
Had a couple myself, nothing that could be consider a CF, but a universal, known frequency asssigned by ATC at an appropriate time would have aided the communication.
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While not entirely similar, the Singapore Airlines on ground fire also had a happy outcome with no fatalities. Yet, it triggered a masssive critisism of the flight crew for not evaquation the aircraft.
This seem to be an engine fire that did not go out. Any information about the cause of the fire? Still early, but this is intersting. It indicated issues on the outside of the engine. Or possibly the crew did not activate the fire switches?
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Originally Posted by hunbet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaNq49BZ7OQ

The video doesn't show the correct A/C but the audio clearly explains why they didn't evacuate.Well handled by all.

OH EM GEE!!!! the controller said "roll the trucks" !!! He obviously wasn't aware that would be the cause of untold pages and pages of angst from the AR TEE enthusiasts.
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Originally Posted by ManaAdaSystem
While not entirely similar, the Singapore Airlines on ground fire also had a happy outcome with no fatalities. Yet, it triggered a masssive critisism of the flight crew for not evaquation the aircraft.
Not really comparable events. On Singapore, a large portion of the wing was ablaze - that could have gone south very rapidly. On this Delta event, the engine was basically smoking - there was little if any visible flame.
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Not really comparable events. On Singapore, a large portion of the wing was ablaze - that could have gone south very rapidly. On this Delta event, the engine was basically smoking - there was little if any visible flame.
Anybody see and visible flame in the pics? if so where from? tailpipe or other?

I'm a little concerned about the visible smoke unless it's only from an an extinguished fire
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Anybody see and visible flame in the pics? if so where from? tailpipe or other?
If you are referring to the above posted video, they were filming landings on the wrong runway. The aircraft in question was not on that video.
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Originally Posted by lomapaseo
Anybody see and visible flame in the pics? if so where from? tailpipe or other?
Well in the top picture in the first article linked, it sure looks like there's a flame toward the rear of the engine.

Edit: here's the pic I was referring to.

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One of the videos showed the arrival of the fire trucks and these flames became much more extensive as the first truck began to spray the rear of the engine. It was as if flammable fluid was pooled there and the disturbance allowed more to catch fire.
The flames were knocked back when the second pumper arrived, it seemed a much more powerful unit.
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So, what was burning?
I don’t fly Airbus, but I assume the fire drill will shut down the engine by shutting off the fuel, same as all other commercial aircraft I have flown.
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Originally Posted by A Squared
Well in the top picture in the first article linked, it sure looks like there's a flame toward the rear of the engine.

Edit: here's the pic I was referring to.

Just looking at the pic, there is flame from the engine, but the smoke looks like it comes from the wing, not the engine.

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The fire was entirely in the engine. CFR equipment in ATL and most larger airports has the ability to see all hotspots and know exactly where a fire is originating from. (Thermal imaging) It’s a especially useful bit of gear if you are landing with a cargo fire indication. They can quickly tell you if it is real or false.
You always as a widebody CA have to consider that if you put passengers into the slides there will be injured passengers and there is a possibility a passenger or two could be killed.
Delta had a relatively orderly evacuation of a 330 in Lagos after a incorrect report from CFR at the airport that resulted in serious injuries to several passengers.

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Originally Posted by ManaAdaSystem
So, what was burning?
I don’t fly Airbus, but I assume the fire drill will shut down the engine by shutting off the fuel, same as all other commercial aircraft I have flown.
May need to discharge the fire suppressant as well.

That would have been SOP at my airline.
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