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Old 30th Mar 2018, 00:22
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Probably the biggest part of Skylab. There was one slab of thick metal also that I wouldn't want to be hit by.

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Old 30th Mar 2018, 07:24
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I was on one of the Space Shuttle Columbia's recovery team, at least one of the hydrazine tank was intact and still half full ... It was incredible that some of the items were completely burnt up, while others looked like quite shiny and new.
Thats interesting. There is a heat shield design which uses liquid water to dispose of heat at the back of a heat shield. A pressure relief valve keeps the vaporisation temperature higher than normal to ensure a lot of heat is carried away by water vapor.

So the half full hydrazine tank is actually working as an efficient heat shield and objects like that may be more likely to reach the ground.
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Old 30th Mar 2018, 07:50
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As of Friday AM the likes of NORAD and EASA are typically predicting re-entry for April 1st, 1030 UTC , plus or minus 15 hours........so at this stage anywhere from 43N to 43S is still at risk...

Anybody issuing enroute NOTAMS is definitely indulging in CTA.....not sure what difference a NOTAM makes anyway .......
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Old 30th Mar 2018, 07:56
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I will be cross if it hits the greenhouse.
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Old 30th Mar 2018, 08:12
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From the title, I thought this thread was going to be about the Comac C919!
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Old 30th Mar 2018, 10:44
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More importantly, can we track it on FR24 and get an updated METAR and TAF for where it's going to crash?
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Old 30th Mar 2018, 11:02
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More importantly, can we track it on FR24 and get an updated METAR and TAF for where it's going to crash?
Here you go

http://www.n2yo.com/?s=37820
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Old 30th Mar 2018, 11:46
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This lot are normally pretty good:

Tiangong-1 Reentry | The Aerospace Corporation

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Is there any kind of betting pool on a more exact zone of debris reaching earth?

What kind of odds are given for betting against an expected zone vs confirmed debris in that zone?

I'm willing to bet a fiver that ten cumulative pounds of confirmed debris will be found within 1000 miles from me. Who will carry that bet?
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Old 30th Mar 2018, 13:50
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While we're waiting...

Originally Posted by News.com.au
HOW COMMON IS SPACE DEBRIS?

Debris from satellites, space launches and the International Space Station enters the atmosphere every few months, but only one person is known to have been hit by any of it: American woman Lottie Williams, who was struck but not injured by a falling piece of a US Delta II rocket while exercising in an Oklahoma park in 1997.

Most famously, America’s 77-tonne Skylab crashed through the atmosphere in 1979, spreading pieces of wreckage near the southwestern Australia city of Perth — and we (The Australians) fined the US $400 for littering.
Balladonia Hotel Motel - our story

Just like the local area, the Balladonia Hotel Motel also has an interesting past. Purchased by the Prendiville family in 1965, we've been going from strength to strength for more than 45 years. We started from pretty humble beginnings but we've grown into a well known tourist hub offering everything from four star accommodation through to backpacker's dongas.

Skylab and its fiery re-entry

Back in the late 1970's Balladonia was thrust into the international spotlight. In July, the world was captivated by the plight of a wayward NASA space station called Skylab. For weeks there was a lot of speculation about where it would come crashing to earth. NASA scientists predicted South Africa but in the early morning of July 13, 1979 they were proved wrong. On the centenary of Balladonia's settlement, fiery pieces of Skylab landed around the grounds of our hotel prompting a call by then president Jimmy Carter to apologise for the mess!
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Old 30th Mar 2018, 14:40
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Originally Posted by Mr Optimistic
I will be cross if it hits the greenhouse.
Help I hadn't thought of that; me prize marrows!
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Old 30th Mar 2018, 23:23
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Originally Posted by wiggy
As of Friday AM the likes of NORAD and EASA are typically predicting re-entry for April 1st, 1030 UTC , plus or minus 15 hours........so at this stage anywhere from 43N to 43S is still at risk...

Anybody issuing enroute NOTAMS is definitely indulging in CTA.....not sure what difference a NOTAM makes anyway .......
perhaps april fools?
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Old 31st Mar 2018, 04:03
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What kind of odds are given for betting against an expected zone vs confirmed debris in that zone?
lomapaseo,

If I make a simplifying assumption that the final orbital track is over your house, I was surprised to see that there is an approximate 9% chance of any debris that makes it to the ground, falling within 1000 nm of you.
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Old 31st Mar 2018, 04:47
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I was sort of being sarcastic
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Originally Posted by Ex Cargo Clown
I was sort of being sarcastic
I think you got out-sarked.
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Originally Posted by FlightlessParrot
I think you got out-sarked.
Don't bet on it mate
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Old 31st Mar 2018, 05:44
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Originally Posted by donotdespisethesnake
Very high, in fact almost certain some parts will reach the surface, assuming by significant size you mean large enough to cause an injury.

But the chances of anything hitting people, buildings, cars etc are astronomically low. I mean, it might make a hole in some farmers field...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=TvJVNyyEMQY
Looks like a sand papered cricket ball😂
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Old 31st Mar 2018, 06:00
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April fools or not it’s still “converging” on the First....

Tiangong-1 reentry updates | Rocket Science
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Old 31st Mar 2018, 07:16
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Originally Posted by Mr Optimistic
I will be cross if it hits the greenhouse.

remember the RR engine of a VC10 that did exactly that in Bracknell in the way back...........................
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Old 31st Mar 2018, 11:37
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Looks like a sand papered cricket ball��
As an Aussie, I resemble that remark!!!!

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