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Old 22nd Apr 2017, 17:01
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Originally Posted by vctenderness
What if the next person in the toilet was a child who picked up the gun out of curiosity and pulled the trigger?
Guns don't always go bang when you pull the trigger. If no round in chamber, no bang. If manual safety is on, no bang.

Chances are the gun was a Glock. No manual safety. So there would be a chance of a bang. If agent was using "Israeli' carry there would be no round in the chamber, so no bang.

Too many variables.
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Old 22nd Apr 2017, 18:33
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If agent was using "Israeli' carry there would be no round in the chamber, so no bang.
But would an agent use "Israeli" carry with a Glock?
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Old 22nd Apr 2017, 19:42
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Bullet hole in fuselage? Decompression?
Originally Posted by gearlever
Isn't that a general risk concerning guns on board?
Hole? Yes.

Decompression? No.

A bullet hole would be so small that the outflow valves would have to close a miniscule amount to compensate. It might cause a bit of noise, though...
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Old 22nd Apr 2017, 20:12
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Originally Posted by Jet Jockey A4
You are a US Marshall on an American registered aircraft and your job is to be incognito in case someone wants to hijack this aircraft and your main tool for work is your gun.
Is this yet another reason (apart from crew calling rent-a-cops to beat up passengers) not to use US airlines?
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Old 22nd Apr 2017, 20:31
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Wouldn't they be using frangible bullets of some kind? Though an aircraft fuselage still might not be strong enough to stop them.
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Old 22nd Apr 2017, 21:46
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99.99% of the time, a Sky (Air) Marshal occupies a seat that would otherwise produce a much larger revenue for the airline.

When was the last time you heard of a Sky (Air) Marshal intervening? I await the deluge of your historical Google searches...

BTW, as of today, right now, there are over **,*** (many) flights in the air over US airspace. Yup, right now..
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Old 22nd Apr 2017, 23:08
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That must have been an interesting moment when the passenger left the lavatory all tooled up...
I would hope that the pax remained by the toilet, left the gun where it was and used the cabin crew call button, one can hope!
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Old 22nd Apr 2017, 23:21
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BluSdUp - think back to 9/11, before entering the flight deck the hijackers attacked the cabin crew, this alone would have got the attention of a sky marshall who hopefully would have reacted before the hijacker had a chance to slaughter both pilots. The locked door we have now won't stop a determined hijacker but it will buy yet more time for the sky marshall to act.
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Old 23rd Apr 2017, 01:47
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Originally Posted by rotornut
But would an agent use "Israeli" carry with a Glock?
No idea. I suppose it is up to the agent.
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Old 23rd Apr 2017, 03:13
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Originally Posted by gearlever
The passenger handed the gun to cabin crew, who in turn returned the weapon to the owner, a female US Air Marshal, who had forgotten the weapon in the lavatory
Interesting that air marshals (especially female ones) are allowed to carry loaded guns onboard aircraft.

I think we now know where the terrorists are going to get their next weapon from.
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Old 23rd Apr 2017, 04:47
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Originally Posted by p.j.m
Interesting that air marshals (especially female ones)
Hmmm. I assume you also feel women sky marshalls should be used only to serve becerages
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Old 23rd Apr 2017, 05:04
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Originally Posted by Wannabe Flyer
Hmmm. I assume you also feel women sky marshalls should be used only to serve becerages
So you feel they are strong enough to keep hold of their gun when a muscley terrorist tries to take it off her?
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Old 23rd Apr 2017, 05:52
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In Turkey, there is a list of "VIPs" allowed to carry guns on board, including " close relatives" of high party officials, so that could be an absent minded grandchild, granny, half wit brother in law etc etc. I doubt these people would know how to use a gun, but its a common comfort factor there..on the other hand terrorists would know exactly how to use such a weapon. Of course these VIPs are usually travelling with their own plain clothes security personnel..
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Old 23rd Apr 2017, 06:06
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Originally Posted by p.j.m
So you feel they are strong enough to keep hold of their gun when a muscley terrorist tries to take it off her?
Wow!!!! let me just let someone else get this one............
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Old 23rd Apr 2017, 06:51
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Do you need to remove your weapon to have a pee?
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Old 23rd Apr 2017, 07:02
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Originally Posted by Octane
Do you need to remove your weapon to have a pee?
Surely she would be using a shoulder holster, why remove the gun to sit on the bog.
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Old 23rd Apr 2017, 07:10
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Surely she would be using a shoulder holster, why remove the gun to sit on the bog.
Look at the number of mobile phones that have had a dunking. Not good for a gun.
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