Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Flight Deck Forums > Rumours & News
Reload this Page >

Deteriorating Working Conditions and Safety Implications make International News

Rumours & News Reporting Points that may affect our jobs or lives as professional pilots. Also, items that may be of interest to professional pilots.

Deteriorating Working Conditions and Safety Implications make International News

Old 15th Apr 2016, 15:08
  #41 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: last time I looked I was still here.
Posts: 4,507
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
It is ever thus and ever will be. The daughter of a friend graduated top of class at a national flight school, shiny CPL & IR. After 4 years can't even get an interview, yet I know of cadets from overseas, even outside EU (but with EU residency rights via family members) who have started TR courses with an airline only a few months out of a foreign flight school, but with a JAA licence. Makes one wonder. It makes the wildebeest migration look like a vicar's tea-party in the cadet scramble for vacancies.
RAT 5 is offline  
Old 15th Apr 2016, 16:16
  #42 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: UK
Age: 77
Posts: 389
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
What debt?

I have been reading this thread and trying to understand the connection made by some between the low cost mode of airline management and this dreadful event, where is it? So far as I can see this confused young feller had no debt problems which could not be contained over a period and good prospects of doing so if he met the expectations of his employers

It all went wrong when he kept to himself problems which overwhelmed him to the point that death seemed preferable to the long struggle looming, he blamed others rather than his unsuitability to his chosen path. In opting for death he sought to extract revenge from the vulnerable

All this seems weird to the rest of the aviation community but frustration quickly turns to anger for those seeing themselves as victims and we can see this in many other situations of strife
Tinribs is offline  
Old 15th Apr 2016, 17:02
  #43 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 1999
Posts: 275
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Such claims have always been made about seniority-based employment systems, i.e. "Yes, advancement on merit is all very well for lesser callings, but we are special, and must maintain our current system".
Pilot advancement is entirely on merit. It is called the Command Check.
A Seniority list merely determines who's turn it is to demonstrate their aptitude.

I am not aware of any circumstances where those claims have ever been proven accurate.
Really?
I see it proven every day.

But there are always strong vested interests in maintaining the status quo, the natural conservative instincts of professionals such as pilots work to resist change, and (perceived) self-interest kicks in once a moderate amount of progress up the list has been achieved.
Yes. Those without the Seniority think the system stinks.
Then they get some seniority.

Still. Advancement on merit will come to pilots eventually - perhaps even be forced upon them, as with so many changes, in response to external pressures - and will probably quickly come to be seen as having been long overdue.
It's already here. Many pilots live with it.
They are no more happy, I can assure you.
Algol is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information

Copyright © 2023 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.