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Batik Air (Lion Group) on fire at Jakarta's Halim Airport

Old 6th Apr 2016, 18:25
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just another Indo ground incident occured today, though less severe:

Source: jacdec
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Old 7th Apr 2016, 02:17
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Originally Posted by readywhenreaching
just another Indo ground incident occured today, though less severe:

Source: jacdec
Another Lion Group airline. Now you know why they have ordered so many aircraft across the whole group.
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Theory with some possible insight.

- Aircraft cleared for TO on VHF freq
Tug spoke to tower on Walkie Talkie (seperate freq).

Crew couldnt know/see ATR due RWY hump/slope from threshold?
By the time it hit, 60-70kts , too late? Abort. Lucky no casualties.

Tug tried to "speed up" when saw AC coming but not fast enough?

Evening news, hello.
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Old 8th Apr 2016, 19:51
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jfkjohan,

If you are really at WMKK I'd think you have a better chance than many to get to WIIM.

The runway does NOT have a "hump" in it and the far end (and full length) is clearly visible from either end (unless there is a heavy, isolated shower covering half).
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Old 14th Apr 2016, 22:57
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On Apr 14th 2016 the French BEA reported based on preliminary information from NTSC Indonesia, that the Batik Boeing 737-800 had been cleared to enter runway 24 via taxiway C and backtrack the runway. In the meantime the tug driver of the Transnusa ATR requested clearance to cross the runway from the north to the south apron and received clearance to taxi via taxiway C, runway 06/24 and taxiway G. While crossing the runway the tug driver saw the Boeing 737 accelerate for takeoff and attempted to steer the tug and aircraft to the right runway shoulder, however the left wing of the Boeing collided with the vertical stabilizer and left wing of the ATR. The Boeing rejected takeoff and came to a stop 400 meters past the point of collision.

Above via The Aviation Herald.


Sounds like one of two scenarios:


1 - ATC didn't clear Batik for TO but they did anyway;
2 - ATC cleared both aircraft and caused accident.


Article doesn't mention Batik having received clearance to TO so my money is on scenario 1 at this point.....
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Old 25th Apr 2016, 04:44
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unofficial report that the towing a/c did not have position lights On. Only amber rotating light with the tug.
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Old 26th Apr 2016, 03:12
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There were portable navigation lights installed on wingtips.
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Old 29th Apr 2016, 08:15
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Cool

and your point is? portable huh? I am not type-rated on Atr.
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Old 29th Apr 2016, 09:22
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TunaBum :
scenario 2 - ATC cleared both aircraft and caused accident.
I doubt that one as if this was the case ( easy and fast to determine by listening to the ground VHF tapes ) , in Indonesia, the controllers would not be sent in "emotional leave" but rather house arrest .
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Final report published.

http://knkt.dephub.go.id/knkt/ntsc_a...l%20Report.pdf
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