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Turkish F16 shoots down unidentified aircraft in their airspace.

Old 24th Nov 2015, 07:12
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Turkish F16 shoots down unidentified aircraft in their airspace.

Reporting on Sky news.
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Old 24th Nov 2015, 07:18
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Link to story such as it is
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Old 24th Nov 2015, 07:35
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SU-24?
Pilot captured by Turks?

Update: Russian media confirm plane shot down by Turkey is Russian. One of the pilots captured -

LOL. Now Russian media changing the "facts" to suit their agenda: Russian media claims that a Syrian MIG-23 was shot down by Turkey, not SU-24
https://twitter.com/SaadAbedine/stat...74242978213889

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Russia confirms the plane shot down by Turkey is Russian.

https://twitter.com/GazetaRu/status/669063568281743360

СРОЧНО. Упавший в Сирии самолет был российским
СМИ: упавший в Сирии самолет был российским, пилот катапультировался - Газета.Ru | Новости

URGENTLY. The fallen aircraft was Russian in Syria СМИ: упавший в Сирии самолет был российским, пилот катапультировался - Газета.Ru | Новости
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OOPS!:
"Turkey called this week for a UN Security Council meeting to discuss attacks on Turkmens in neighbouring Syria, and last week Ankara summoned the Russian ambassador to protest the bombing of their villages.

Ankara has traditionally expressed solidarity with Syrian Turkmens, who are Syrians of Turkish descent."

Russian propagandist liars now claiming there was no intrusion of Turkish airspace: https://www.rt.com/news/323215-warpl...-syria-turkey/

This looks like it is going from warm to hot.
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Turkey downs Russian fighter jet near Syrian border after violation of airspace - Daily Sabah

"The downed fighter jet was warned 10 times in 5 minutes according to a statement released by the Turkish Armed Forces."
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Plane crash site and both pilots are on Syrian territory, BTW. Controlled by Syrian turkomans, fighting against Syrian government. So?
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Turkish President Erdogan confirmed that the Turkish military was shot down Russia's Su-24 over Syria.

UPD: Plane fell at Yamady turkoman refugee camp in Latakia. Pilots held hostage by turkomans, who open fire at helicopters sent to rescue operation.
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Old 24th Nov 2015, 08:49
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This one should be easy. I am sure both Nato and Russia will have the complete air picture and recordings. But will it agree?
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Would suggest that all who fly around the ME turn up 121.5 mhz and wear headsets so as not to miss any calls!!!
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Old 24th Nov 2015, 09:05
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This is a real wild card right now. If the plane crashed at Latakia, then it is nearly 40km inside Syria, which would tend to cast doubt on claims it was violating Turkish airspace.

How Putin will react is the key thing though. It could be as restrained as diplomatic protests, though unless his pilot is released promptly and unharmed, that level of restraint is unlikely.

At the other extreme, he could react by providing the Kurds with air-defense systems to assist them in resisting the Turkish bombing campaign that is targeting them. It would be easy to justify doing so on the basis that they were fighting against IS before Turkey started targeting them.
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At 500 mph the aircraft would be doing 8 miles a minute, three minutes to fall depending on height takes it 24 miles (roughly 40km) and that's just back of fag packet maths. The aircraft doesn't fall straight down.
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"I am sure both Nato and Russia will have the complete air picture and recordings."

Are you suggesting it's Nato vs Russia?
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Are you suggesting it's Nato vs Russia?
Don't think so. Nobody knows what's the role of Erdogan in this "game". Erdogan proofed that he has his own agenda. And his agenda might be totally different.....
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He didn't say that, slow but obviously Turkey is in NATO. As with the Israeli shootdown of a Syrian aircraft, IS must be laughing their socks off!
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BBC reporting one pilot killed.
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At 500 mph the aircraft would be doing 8 miles a minute, three minutes to fall depending on height takes it 24 miles (roughly 40km) and that's just back of fag packet maths. The aircraft doesn't fall straight down.
Simple maths of course. If the Pilots had pulled the Ejection Seat at 800km/h IAS (not Gspd.!)there would be less diplomatic trouble.
Betting would be more exact if the last Course of the Airplane is verified.
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Old 24th Nov 2015, 09:23
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Exactly.

NATO Vows Military Support If Turkey Goes To War With Russia
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