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Old 17th Jul 2016, 19:07
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Originally Posted by RAT 5
However you must consider the substantial threat that would be introduced by such a critical change in SOPs.

Let's consider another threat. It s a common held idea that the landing is committed to once TR's have been unlocked. Many over-run's have occurred when the smart move would have been to make a GA from the runway after touchdown. Who makes that decision? Certainly the captain and hopefully the PF. If they are one & the same it can be easier. Now, as the Capt/PF is just about to abort the landing and go off again, the PM selected TR's. Ouch. Never say never.
Back to the SOP. I've heard the defenders say "it is no problem, even RTO's." I've not heard a solid reason persuading us it is a better idea than the more common alternative. Until then I think we shall all agree to disagree.
Rest assured Ratty, the folks at BA have thought of that and it's all taken care of. Either pilot can call go-around any time until the reversers are pulled. Although I prefer to do it all the traditional way the BA SOP does work fine.
To be clear... No reverse is selected until the handler is ready for it (and the in the BA way, so is the NHP).

What concerns me more is a slide in slippery conditions and getting the reverse off.
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Old 18th Jul 2016, 06:08
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60 sectors?????? 60!!!!!! Proof that P2F does not get the best candidate in the cockpit. Try that at an airline with N registered a/c. They start asking questions after 30 hours if you haven't been signed off. We invented it, YOU perfected it.
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Old 18th Jul 2016, 08:11
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It's all ridiculous.
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Old 18th Jul 2016, 19:46
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The BA cadet scheme is hardly P2F. It's probably one of the better ones around.
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Old 18th Jul 2016, 20:14
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Stocious, you are right but it's sad that that's as good as it gets. Just under 100k on training and I was told today half DEP salary for 7 years! Still better than what I did though
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Old 18th Jul 2016, 21:25
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It's not half DEP salary either! Starts off about half but ramps up very quickly. In fact the total remuneration package for FPP compared to DEP only works out at around 35000 less over the first 7 years, and in later years actually involves BA paying cadets more than DEPs if you include the bond repayment.
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Old 18th Jul 2016, 21:40
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But that is repaying them their loan money, or otherwise financed, in the first place.
Pleasing to the beancounters where the layout (cash) for training is minimised.

Not money representing purchasing power....
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Old 18th Jul 2016, 22:04
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Which is why I said total remuneration package.

Such is the world today that even if you joined as a DEP straight (or even a few years) out of training, you'll usually have some sort of training loan to satisfy anyway. My point, is that the FPP scheme is hardly making their cadets destitute, and hardly P2F.
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