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Old 7th Jul 2015, 16:37
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F-16 and Cessna Midair in South Carolina, USA

Doesn't look good for the Cessna occupant(s). Hope the Viper driver got out OK.

WATCH LIVE COVERAGE: Plane crash involving F-16 and Cessna in Moncks Corner

By Kelly Bazzle
Published: July 7, 2015, 11:25 am | Updated: July 7, 2015, 12:25 pm

Plane Crash in Moncks Corner

WCBD has confirmed with Berkeley County spokesperson Michael Mule that there has been a plane crash at Lewisfield Plantation in Moncks Corner.

A witness called News 2 and said he saw 2 planes collide in the air and saw a huge explosion, describing it as a “ball of fire in the air.”

WATCH LIVE COVERAGE HERE

A source tells News 2 that an F-16 and a small plane were involved in the crash and Berkeley County Fire has confirmed the crash involved an F-16 and a Cessna. The pilot of the F-16 ejected.
Plane crash involving F-16 and Cessna in Moncks Corner
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Pictures in the link above show the F-16 afterburner nozzle resting against the side of a camper. The live feed mentions an unconfirmed report that the fighter pilot has been found and that some of the wreckage may be in the water.

A command post has been set up at the Big Lots in Monck's Corner, SC off highway 52.
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That's bad.
Curious about the cause, obviously.
Airspace, transponders, civilian or military ATC.
All will be looked at.
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It appears that the F-16 pilot has been found.

From the Berkeley County EMS channel 'tell other units to slow their runs, the pilot is Cat 3.'

He will be transported to Shaw AFB according to the radio discussion.

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Some better news, it now appears that the 'no transport' and 'Cat 3' call means the pilot was unhurt, not deceased as I first incorrectly surmised!

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Appears the F16 was from Shaw AB and shooting instrument approaches to CHS. Cessna had just taken off from our small local airport.

Latest news conference states that the Viper pilot is fine and being checked out at CHS before they return him to Shaw. Multiple agencies are searching for the Cessna occupants as much of the wreckage came down in the river.
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USA Today is now reporting 2 DOAs in the C150. RIP
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Originally Posted by Moose Loadie
Appears the F16 was from Shaw AB and shooting instrument approaches to CHS. Cessna had just taken off from our small local airport.
Why would the F16 be flying so low around a local airport?
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Military aircraft shoot practice instrument approaches all the time at our local airport. They usually use the VOR approach instead of the ILS. There should be ATC tapes available if an instrument approach was being conducted.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_M...-air_collision
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I have to say that I am stunned ! Barely more than 12 hours since the accident and there is a Wikipedia entry on it ???

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and the wikipedia entry is already misleading: "The National Transportation Safety Board has opened an investigation into the accident. They passed the investigation over to the United States Air Force. The Federal Aviation Administration have also opened an investigation."...claiming the FAA is investigating, and the NTSB handed over the investigation to the USAF...I'm pretty sure the NTSB will investigate this, and while the Air Force certainly will cooperate and also do their own internal investigation, I doubt they're in charge here.
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The F16 was practicing instrument approaches in to Charleston, but also may have been on a low-level IR route. The IR route is very close to the accident site.

The 150 was departing the airport 17nm North of Charleston and headed to Myrtle Beach (opposite direction). From the location of the site, the 150 may have been in a climbing left hand turn. He was outside of the Class C, so he may not have been talking to anyone (yet).

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Typically a shared investigation (NTSB, USAF, FAA)

There is a need for ATC stuff, pilot Briefings and of course wreckage examination.

Shouldn't be too hard for the USAF to sort out the angles of impact from the recovered F16 (I'm in serious doubt about the witness statements)
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Wikipedia entry has been amended, source was wrong originally.
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Wikipedia entry still has errors.

The Cessna was a C-150M, N3601V. Occupants of the Cessna were Michael Johnson, 68, and his son Joseph Johnson, 30, the owner and pilot of the Cessna 150M.

One witness said the F-16 dropped (jettisoned) three fuel tanks and continued to fly a short distance, loosing altitude, before the pilot ejected.
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Feel free to update the Wikipedia article. That is why it was created so quickly. They didn't have to wait for some authority to approve or create it for them. If you can reference your source (just look how the others are done) you will be even more thanked. I am the one that removed the "They passed the investigation over to the United States Air Force."
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loosing
????
I assume you meant "losing"?
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The names of the deceased are accurately reported per the source used, the Canadian Broadcasting Commission.

Cessna 150, F-16 collision: Body of passenger found as search for pilot continues - World - CBC News
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Why are we even discussing who can more accurately update a Wiki about someones death
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Dunno why anyone considers it necessary to start a wiki...
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