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Asiana runway excursion in Hiroshima

Old 14th Apr 2015, 13:21
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Asiana runway excursion in Hiroshima

NHK (Japan) 9pm news reporting Asiana A320 off the rwy in Hirishima at 8pm this evening

Looks "gearless" in the news shot

Report says all 150+ pax accounted for...3 injured
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Only thing I could have found was this..

Sortie de piste l'atterrissage d'un avion de Asiana

Its in French but it seems legit...
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Yes, just watched that on NHK. Aircraft appeared to be on its belly.
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update on the news now says 76 pax/crew on board ..20 injured
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NHK now saying ILS damaged. Yomiuri says "about 30 injured", aircraft off end of runway and now pointed toward the direction from which it came.
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Here's the AP story:

The headline says "Plane skids off runway in Japan; about 20 injured"


TOKYO (AP) — An Asiana Airlines plane skidded off a runway Tuesday after landing in western Japan, and about 20 people received minor injuries, officials said.

Hiroshima airport reported that the aircraft's tail touched the runway while landing, causing some sparks, but there were no flames, the Mihara City fire department said.



(well, ok, guess he scraped the tail. No flames? )



The airport was closed after the accident for an investigation.


(Then in the 4th paragraph the plot thickens)


Officials found damage to a wireless communication facility near the runway, suggesting the Airbus 320 may have touched it before landing, Transport Ministry official Shunichiro Sasaki said. He said the plane's left wing and left engine were also damaged.


(So it was a bit more than a tail scrape. Left wing and engine damaged? Wireless communications facility? Wait, there's more)



An object believed to be an antenna from the communication facility was found caught in the plane's left landing gear, Kyodo News reported, quoting the Transport Ministry.


(An antenna stuck in the left gear!!! )


Officials said Asiana Flight 162 was carrying 74 passengers and eight crewmembers from Incheon airport in South Korea.

Fire department official Kyoichi Utsumi said about 20 people received minor injuries — mostly bruises and scratches — and no one was hurt seriously. All were evacuated using escape chutes, and it was not immediately clear if they were injured during the landing or the evacuation. Transport officials said 18 of the injured people were taken to nearby hospitals for treatment.

TV video showed the escape chutes hanging from the aircraft, with several fire engines standing by as a precaution.

Passengers interviewed by Japanese media described a tense evacuation.

Kyodo quoted an unidentified passenger as saying that the plane bounced when it touched down, then skidded off the runway and stopped on the grass. It said another passenger described seeing flames in the engine. NHK quoted a passenger as saying smoke entered the cabin before the evacuation.


(Of course we get the reference to the SFO 777, but maybe they're related?)


An Asiana Airlines Boeing 777 crashed two years ago as it approached San Francisco's airport in an accident that killed three teenagers and injured nearly 200 others. U.S. safety investigators said the pilots bungled the landing approach by inadvertently deactivating the plane's key control for airspeed, among other errors.
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Koreantimes Article

Heres what the local foreigner/English media house, the Korean Times had to say;


Posted : 2015-04-14 22:12
Updated : 2015-04-14 22:17
Asiana jet slides off runway at Hiroshima

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By Kim Jae-won

An Asiana Airlines aircraft overran a runway at a Japanese airport Tuesday evening, leaving 23 passengers with minor injuries, according to officials and reports.

Asiana flight 162 slid off the runway at Hiroshima Airport at 8 p.m, about one hour after it departed from Incheon International Airport, an Asiana official said.

Eighty one passengers and crew members were on board the jet, according to Kyodo News. All of the passengers and crews escaped from the aircraft.

Runways at the airport were shut down after 8:20 p.m.

The accident came about two years after an aircraft of the Korean airliner crashed at San Francisco International Airport in July, 2013, killing three Chinese passengers and injuring more than 180 people. Compensation lawsuits filed by the passengers against the airline are pending at U.S. courts.
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I can only find a chart for a VOR approach to that runway. Another early touchdown off a non-precision approach.
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Old 14th Apr 2015, 21:19
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Accident: Asiana A320 at Hiroshima on Apr 14th 2015

Japan's Ministry of Transport reported that the aircraft touched down about 330 meters short of the runway suffering a tail strike with sparks visible from the tail section upon touchdown, the aircraft broke through the localizer antenna and received substantial damage to left wing and left engine (V2527).
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No visual approaches and no non precision approaches from now on!
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just in case no one taught them, at night, or really anytime, don't land on the first bit of pavement.

be sure you leave a little pavement behind you, just to make sure you did not undershoot the runway.

there are handy markings on the runway to help you understand

and if you can't seem them at night, try to land abeam or past papi or vasi or similar.

there are those who will even not go below 50' RA until the runway is beneath them.

good luck.
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Old 15th Apr 2015, 00:25
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Possibly the Asiana chaps misinterpreted " dive and drive " and transposed it as " drive and dive "!

I have seen Korean guys holding English level 6 certificates but getting almost every ATC clearance wrong! And they have failed expat native English speakers in the ICAO English tests, I kid you not! Some expats are saddled with only level 4or 5 English, whilst pilots ( both Korean and some expats ) who can hardly carry on a decent everyday conversation in English brandish their level 6 certificates unashamedly.
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Asiana 162 from Incheon reported to have come in low, knocked down 12 out of 24 posts on the ILS, damaging left engine and wing and presumably landing gear. Wind at the time negligible - 2km/h. Hiroshima airport remains closed. Here are some photos and diagramatic depictions from today's Japanese media:

http://www.sankei.com/west/photos/15...150017-p1.html

http://www.asahi.com/articles/photo/...415000068.html

http://mainichi.jp/graph/2015/04/15/...6000c/006.html

http://mainichi.jp/graph/2015/04/15/...6000c/005.html
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Old 15th Apr 2015, 02:22
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Anybody know what type of approach they were doing? I used to instruct in the A320 sim at Asiana until I just couldn't take it anymore. I can confirm that if using anything else but an ILS it would lift the degree of difficulty of the approach, in a geometric progression, the closer they were to the threshold.

Sad but true and a fact of life now here in SE Asia.

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Old 15th Apr 2015, 02:29
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Some daylight video in this report:

Hiroshima plane accident passengers injured - News - NHK WORLD - English
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Looks to be a similar accident to the Air Canada crash at Halifax. I don't think this can be blamed on the culture of any particular airline or region. It is a worldwide problem that pilots are being deskilled. IATA keep looking at fatality rates but should start quoting hull loss rates as not every accident results in fatalities.
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Aircanada pilots are very skilled and experienced pilots, there is no way any Canadian airline pilot can't fly at any time an airplane with very proper hand-skills when necessary. Many pilots do come in the major airlines with a northern experience and for some thousands of hours of piloting in an IMC environment, sometimes 100% manually.

The unfortunate accident in Halifax can't be compared to this event. Also the accident at Halifax was with a WX at minimum and decent x-winds, it could be windshear, time will let us know.
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All accidents are unfortunate but you can't deny an accident occurred! The Asiana pilots may be able to claim the same problems but the similarities are striking. Aircraft landing short of the runway during a manual landing and the aircraft coming to a stop with the gear ripped off.
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Nose and right main gear are intact,left main might be damaged but is still holding the left engine clear of the ground (see video a few posts up).
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There's no ILS to RWY28.

Also, from ADS-B data it does not look like they did the VOR approach.

So other than visual that leaves vectors to RNAV GNSS RWY28 approach as a possibility. Are Asiana A320s equipped for RNAV GNSS approaches? (DME/DME is not authorized for this approach.)

The ground track matches the RNAV approach, however -- if the ADS-B data is correct -- the altitude looks 200' high at FAF and then about 3.3 or 3.4 degrees steep descent (normal is 3.00 for this approach). FR24's data ends at about 1000ft AGL unfortunately.

According to AvHerald the METAR was:

RJOA 141108Z VRB02KT 4000 R28/0300VP1800D -SHRA PRFG FEW000 SCT005 BKN012 09/08Q1006 RMK 1ST000 4ST005 6CU012 A2973 1500E FG E-S

So maybe they had the runway in sight and then lost it in fog.
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