United Airlines warning letter to Pilots about safety
I see nothing wrong in that memo and in fact I give it a 
We are currently seeing a lot of movement in the pilot group, such as retirements, seat movements and new hires, that -- while welcome -- introduces significant risk to the operation.
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Well, you can bet your last dollar that somewhere there is a pilot who thinks they know or have a better way to do it
I suspect that all of these procedures have been vetted by the Mfg, FAA, ALPA Safety and the combined training and standards organizations of both CAL and UAL. At the end of the day it doesn't matter if you have one pilot that thinks these new SOPs don't apply to them
I suspect that all of these procedures have been vetted by the Mfg, FAA, ALPA Safety and the combined training and standards organizations of both CAL and UAL. At the end of the day it doesn't matter if you have one pilot that thinks these new SOPs don't apply to them
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Leaking...
I see something very wrong with the leak - that is, the author may think twice about issuing a similar memo in the future. It is a serious threat to a safety management system if management can't communicate with staff about safety related issues without confidentiality.
Would you self-report an incident if you thought your report would be leaked by management to the press?
It goes both ways.
If internal safety memos continue to be leaked, they will get the PR department to write them rather than the safety department.
I see something very wrong with the leak - that is, the author may think twice about issuing a similar memo in the future. It is a serious threat to a safety management system if management can't communicate with staff about safety related issues without confidentiality.
Would you self-report an incident if you thought your report would be leaked by management to the press?
It goes both ways.
If internal safety memos continue to be leaked, they will get the PR department to write them rather than the safety department.
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We get a memo like that about once every two years at my carrier.
FOQA has lifted the veil on just how dangerous our profession can be.
FOQA has lifted the veil on just how dangerous our profession can be.
As mentioned on other threads, I fly with some folks who seem to be doing everything but flying the plane while in the seat. They text while I'm taxiing and play games on the iPhone while descending though Chinese metric RVSM airspace as PF. And, if I say something about it, they pout and play 'I've got a secret' for the rest of the trip.
Illegal personal electronic devices are proliferating once more in the cockpit. Tablets play movies off of wifi hard drives with Bluetooth headphones and speakers. Unapproved GPS receivers are hacked to work with company tablets. Non-TSO headsets play tunes off the iPhone. NW 188 overflying MSP seemed to cut down on this unauthorized electronic stuff for a while but now it's back.
If we don't clean up our act and be more professional, the feds will do it for us after the next crash.
The NTSB has for years wanted airlines to audit non-accident CVR recordings to ensure SOP compliance. And cockpit cameras. Strictly confidential, non-disciplinary, for safety only etc., etc., etc...
Yup Airbubba
I some times wonder if I am becoming an old fart like what I used to fly with 30 yrs ago -
No you can't text while taxying
No you can't make a call while taxying
No you can't watch a video in flight
No you can't have one ear plugged into your Itunes
Clearing the runway please don't lean down, get your phone turn it on.
I some times wonder if I am becoming an old fart like what I used to fly with 30 yrs ago -
No you can't text while taxying
No you can't make a call while taxying
No you can't watch a video in flight
No you can't have one ear plugged into your Itunes
Clearing the runway please don't lean down, get your phone turn it on.
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Airbubba...oops, that's like Korean Air pilots in the 80-90s! Eventhough the electronic gizmos ain't that advanced then but there were walkmans, colorful mags and Japanese mangas.
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Airbubba and Trista_dvr. I assume you're both FOs, in which case you have my sympathy. Is there not a confidential reporting system you can use? Captains behaving like you say are not only unprofessional; they're dangerous.
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Airbubba and Trista_dvr. I assume you're both FOs, in which case you have my sympathy.
Air bubba
First Officers taxying the aircraft? Next they'll be wanting landings too. Outrageous
Actually in my experience, in the UK, FOs taxying is SOP when it's their sector. Perhaps in your company and/or location it's different. It's all part of this wacky idea of developing the next generation of aviators. Role reversal I've heard it called.
As for the memo that started this thread I cannot fault it. I know nothing of the politics at United but I read it as an impassioned plea to the flight crew to do their jobs professionally. A former trainer said to me that "Fate is the hunter" should be required reading on a conversion course and I believe he was making a valid point about never letting your guard down. Be safe out there 'cos someone or something is going to try and spoil your day.
First Officers taxying the aircraft? Next they'll be wanting landings too. Outrageous
Actually in my experience, in the UK, FOs taxying is SOP when it's their sector. Perhaps in your company and/or location it's different. It's all part of this wacky idea of developing the next generation of aviators. Role reversal I've heard it called.
As for the memo that started this thread I cannot fault it. I know nothing of the politics at United but I read it as an impassioned plea to the flight crew to do their jobs professionally. A former trainer said to me that "Fate is the hunter" should be required reading on a conversion course and I believe he was making a valid point about never letting your guard down. Be safe out there 'cos someone or something is going to try and spoil your day.
I know nothing of the politics at United but I read it as an impassioned plea to the flight crew to do their jobs professionally.
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I read it as a plea to "straighten up and fly right even though we have failed to establish a positive safety culture and have allowed you to bust SOP's for years, failed to reign in the outlying cowboys, failed to empower the disciplined amongst you, and watched as human nature did it's thing and a large majority of you bowed to the pressure exerted to get the job done"