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There is allways two sides of every story.
For what I can see, this thread has many contributions by people that are only interested in giving the worst view.
Nothing offensive but do you really think you have a better knowledge of what's going on at TJ than me?
There is allways two sides of every story.
For what I can see, this thread has many contributions by people that are only interested in giving the worst view.
Nothing offensive but do you really think you have a better knowledge of what's going on at TJ than me?
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Knold,
The above reads like youve just appointed yourself as spokesman for Transjet. Can I therefore ask:
1) Can you confirm that Transjet pilots are operating into Skiathos with no prior pilot training. Skiathos is a Category C airfield where UK flight crews are required to undertake a briefing and route check.
2) Is the two-day cabin crew training course (covering both the 747 and MD83) legal and if so, under what jurisdiction? What emergency drills and procedures, first aid, aviation security and CRM do you cover on that course? If you are reading across cabin crews experience from previous airlines how are you satisfying yourself as you are required to do under JAR that they have received this training? How would you ensure that they are all following the same procedures (instead of their previous employers procedures) in the event of an emergency.
3) If all is going so well why has one UK tour operator already withdrawn quite a lot of its work from Transjet this summer to go elsewhere and why is another customer looking to reduce its flying with Transjet? Is the second aircraft really going to appear at Gatwick or is there no work left for it?
4) What was the corrosion problem with the fourth UK-based MD83 and what is being done to fix it before it enters service?
5) I see that this weekends operation fell apart yet again, with Sunday's ZTH-LGW eventually turning up on Monday afternoon (15 hours late) and the LGW-JSI Monday flight departing about 10 hours late. Add this to the engine failure ex Corfu, the fuel leak at EMA two weeks ago, the total shambles on the day of the Swanwick ATC failure, various subs etc - it doesnt exactly create a very good impression of Transjet.
What is the company doing about it, or are UK passengers this summer expected to suffer the consequences of their tour operators contracting with cheaper foreign airlines operating to standards that simply would not be tolerated by the UK CAA (per 1-2 above)?
The above reads like youve just appointed yourself as spokesman for Transjet. Can I therefore ask:
1) Can you confirm that Transjet pilots are operating into Skiathos with no prior pilot training. Skiathos is a Category C airfield where UK flight crews are required to undertake a briefing and route check.
2) Is the two-day cabin crew training course (covering both the 747 and MD83) legal and if so, under what jurisdiction? What emergency drills and procedures, first aid, aviation security and CRM do you cover on that course? If you are reading across cabin crews experience from previous airlines how are you satisfying yourself as you are required to do under JAR that they have received this training? How would you ensure that they are all following the same procedures (instead of their previous employers procedures) in the event of an emergency.
3) If all is going so well why has one UK tour operator already withdrawn quite a lot of its work from Transjet this summer to go elsewhere and why is another customer looking to reduce its flying with Transjet? Is the second aircraft really going to appear at Gatwick or is there no work left for it?
4) What was the corrosion problem with the fourth UK-based MD83 and what is being done to fix it before it enters service?
5) I see that this weekends operation fell apart yet again, with Sunday's ZTH-LGW eventually turning up on Monday afternoon (15 hours late) and the LGW-JSI Monday flight departing about 10 hours late. Add this to the engine failure ex Corfu, the fuel leak at EMA two weeks ago, the total shambles on the day of the Swanwick ATC failure, various subs etc - it doesnt exactly create a very good impression of Transjet.
What is the company doing about it, or are UK passengers this summer expected to suffer the consequences of their tour operators contracting with cheaper foreign airlines operating to standards that simply would not be tolerated by the UK CAA (per 1-2 above)?
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swl seem to be delayed more than any other airline out of man with more than 5 hours being commonplace. last week a crew was stood around at T2 early hours of the morning for about an hour after arriving back 4 hours late . Evetually i asked them was there a problem, they had no idea of how they were being transported to a hotel and seemed to be speaking 3 different languages, eventually we pointed them in the direction of T1 Arrivals to get a taxi. Dont know were to though.
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Amazing thread !
The strangest thing happened here a couple of weeks ago; I noted they were operating an MD-88 on their second flight of the day from Rhodes. The registration showed "ONM".
My thought was ONUR - but Turkish operated MD out of Rhodes ??
Well it turned out that it was TC-ONM and I am still
Maybe Knold can enlighten me!
The strangest thing happened here a couple of weeks ago; I noted they were operating an MD-88 on their second flight of the day from Rhodes. The registration showed "ONM".
My thought was ONUR - but Turkish operated MD out of Rhodes ??
Well it turned out that it was TC-ONM and I am still
Maybe Knold can enlighten me!
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It was one of those Greek Islands anyway (HER ??)
Apart from on Opposite sides of the Cypriot Green Line, I have never seen Greek/Turkish aircraft operating in one or the other's territory. Was this some quiet diplomatic coup??
It was one of those Greek Islands anyway (HER ??)
Apart from on Opposite sides of the Cypriot Green Line, I have never seen Greek/Turkish aircraft operating in one or the other's territory. Was this some quiet diplomatic coup??
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Attaboy flyhalf!!!!! Hehehe - that should rattle "knold"'s cage a little........
Knold - how could any of the guys reply to your question regarding whether they would be more qualified to make a judgement on Transjet than you when none of us a friggin' clue who you are or where you work???
Might assume you work for Transjet now I come to think of it.......
I'm all for people supporting their employers but when it boils down to it there ain't too many fragrances that'll overpower the smell of pure shoit!
Knold - how could any of the guys reply to your question regarding whether they would be more qualified to make a judgement on Transjet than you when none of us a friggin' clue who you are or where you work???
Might assume you work for Transjet now I come to think of it.......
I'm all for people supporting their employers but when it boils down to it there ain't too many fragrances that'll overpower the smell of pure shoit!
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Well c'mere - there's more.... hehe
In answer to your question regarding this morning's flight Dr "C" I happened to be taxiing out of MAN at six this morning at 0555 hrs (narrows it down a bit - so much for this perfect disguise...) and lo and behold what should I stumble across?? Only our friend "Knold" and a buddy in an MD80sumthing being held in detention at B1 (I think it was) by our lovely lady ground controller school mistressy type thing. She had administered a severe b@llicking to the transjet for missing his turning - well we've most of us been there before but my point is that she seemed rather close to the end of her tether.......
In answer to your question regarding this morning's flight Dr "C" I happened to be taxiing out of MAN at six this morning at 0555 hrs (narrows it down a bit - so much for this perfect disguise...) and lo and behold what should I stumble across?? Only our friend "Knold" and a buddy in an MD80sumthing being held in detention at B1 (I think it was) by our lovely lady ground controller school mistressy type thing. She had administered a severe b@llicking to the transjet for missing his turning - well we've most of us been there before but my point is that she seemed rather close to the end of her tether.......
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Sorry Transjet guys and girls, I know you have some great people working for you in the cabin et all but the operational reliability really must improve if you are to have a future. If it doesn't other independent charter carriers will benefit, and SWL will lose out. At Newcastle Kosmar/Libra/Priceright use Air Scandic for a large proportion of their flying using the 757 which has an excellent reliability. At Bristol, Nordic Airlink is flying the programme with an MD82 which so far seems to be doing a good job, and has a strong plan for future development.
Strange how things work out though. Several people who work for NDC and SCY were working with Mr Transjet in the days of Nordic European (which reflects SWL this summer quite well) when the NCL/MAN L-1011 bases were operating in Summer 1997, and became for a time tarnished with the same brush.....quite inappropriately considering how well things have turned out for them.
Quite honestly though, I wish SWL good luck for the future and hope that you are going to build a strong and reliable airline - the performance at the minute though leads me to believe that is going to be a very hard task.
With regards to JSI - I really would not like to operate in and out of there without some kind of prebrief - it is a small, not very well equipped hole however with a beautiful island attached!
Get it together SWL! Relive AirOps and you'll be laughing all the way!
cheers,
starship
Strange how things work out though. Several people who work for NDC and SCY were working with Mr Transjet in the days of Nordic European (which reflects SWL this summer quite well) when the NCL/MAN L-1011 bases were operating in Summer 1997, and became for a time tarnished with the same brush.....quite inappropriately considering how well things have turned out for them.
Quite honestly though, I wish SWL good luck for the future and hope that you are going to build a strong and reliable airline - the performance at the minute though leads me to believe that is going to be a very hard task.
With regards to JSI - I really would not like to operate in and out of there without some kind of prebrief - it is a small, not very well equipped hole however with a beautiful island attached!
Get it together SWL! Relive AirOps and you'll be laughing all the way!
cheers,
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It all makes frightening reading. With their apparent record so far and a summer season looming, it seems that there is a more serious incident in the making. I hope it won't be this that finally get the CAA to take a closer look, one that seems well over due.
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Wasn't getting at TJ, just pointing out that if you want to run a service you use the right tool - You don't use a Concorde for shuttle services, likewise and MD80 should be able to do a 4 hour charter hop if fuelled correctly and with the benefit of the right route/winds.
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Knold
"Do you really think that the Swedish CAA doesn't do their job. "
A few years ago I worked for a jet IT operator out of Arlanda. One day I was informed that a Swedish CAA Flight Ops Inspector was coming along for the ride to do a check on us. He was a nice enough chap - however during the flight it became apparent he had never flown a jet and had little knowledge of jet operations. I regret to say that all of us had the same impression of the Swedish CAA - nice amateurs who had spent too long dealing with SAS and not enought time dealing with anybody else.
In the light of this I very much doubt their ability to monitor the activities of an outfit like Transjet.
"Do you really think that the Swedish CAA doesn't do their job. "
A few years ago I worked for a jet IT operator out of Arlanda. One day I was informed that a Swedish CAA Flight Ops Inspector was coming along for the ride to do a check on us. He was a nice enough chap - however during the flight it became apparent he had never flown a jet and had little knowledge of jet operations. I regret to say that all of us had the same impression of the Swedish CAA - nice amateurs who had spent too long dealing with SAS and not enought time dealing with anybody else.
In the light of this I very much doubt their ability to monitor the activities of an outfit like Transjet.
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Goldensun!
Come on don't give the guys a hard time......
Speaking to another skip downroute tonight on the MD-83 who works with SWL.....
Yes. like the best of us they have problems, and like me their a/c are not in their first youth! They have 5 MDs all ex-AOM/Air Liberte with op bases in Sweden, Greece, and UK.
....Don't believe everything you read in the papers. My mate enjoys his flying in a professional way and still prioritises good old fashioned airmanship. He enjoys the mixed flying mainly out of MAN but really loves those visits to GLA (well no accounting for taste - west coast!) He takes the MD into places I can only dream of driving the B757 into (not on the European tour - OK it might be at 2am in the morning.) Lets give this new airline a chance to fly some happy holidaymakers.
...and remember every morning he still walks out to an MD-83 - OK folks the B757 is still the best ride! Next time you pass an SWL MD-83 in the sin bin for 24L down at MAN give him a wave - for he is flying to the sun!
Speaking to another skip downroute tonight on the MD-83 who works with SWL.....
Yes. like the best of us they have problems, and like me their a/c are not in their first youth! They have 5 MDs all ex-AOM/Air Liberte with op bases in Sweden, Greece, and UK.
....Don't believe everything you read in the papers. My mate enjoys his flying in a professional way and still prioritises good old fashioned airmanship. He enjoys the mixed flying mainly out of MAN but really loves those visits to GLA (well no accounting for taste - west coast!) He takes the MD into places I can only dream of driving the B757 into (not on the European tour - OK it might be at 2am in the morning.) Lets give this new airline a chance to fly some happy holidaymakers.
...and remember every morning he still walks out to an MD-83 - OK folks the B757 is still the best ride! Next time you pass an SWL MD-83 in the sin bin for 24L down at MAN give him a wave - for he is flying to the sun!
....saw there was another one with a very big delay into BRS last night from CFU
....on Ceefax arrivals, it said Corfu via ??????, so did he have to tech. stop somewhere, explaining the delay?
....on Ceefax arrivals, it said Corfu via ??????, so did he have to tech. stop somewhere, explaining the delay?
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Not really wanting to stir this any more, but I just cant accept 'Dyce001's' points on Aircraft age being the problem.
If TJ's MD's are all ex AOM/LIB, then the oldest one was built in 1987. Therefore how can EAC (737's YOUNGEST built in '79!), AIH(757's oldest built in '82), and MON (757's oldest built in '83) continue to operate to decent schedules?
Something with to do with them being established 'year round' UK airlines maybe?
I am not saying that they are unsafe in any way, but these 'Summer only' Airlines continue to pitch up in the UK each year, offer cheap rates, cheap service, poor time keeping, and poor service.
Yes its good that additonal jobs are available for 6 months for Cabin Crew and Ground Staff, but dont forget, potentially this equipment is taking business away from the UK charter airlines which in turn means less flying for you boys and girls within the UK fleets!
At the end of the day, 'buy cheap', get 'cheap'!
If TJ's MD's are all ex AOM/LIB, then the oldest one was built in 1987. Therefore how can EAC (737's YOUNGEST built in '79!), AIH(757's oldest built in '82), and MON (757's oldest built in '83) continue to operate to decent schedules?
Something with to do with them being established 'year round' UK airlines maybe?
I am not saying that they are unsafe in any way, but these 'Summer only' Airlines continue to pitch up in the UK each year, offer cheap rates, cheap service, poor time keeping, and poor service.
Yes its good that additonal jobs are available for 6 months for Cabin Crew and Ground Staff, but dont forget, potentially this equipment is taking business away from the UK charter airlines which in turn means less flying for you boys and girls within the UK fleets!
At the end of the day, 'buy cheap', get 'cheap'!