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Old 20th Mar 2014, 05:24
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How big was Abby Sunderlands yacht?

I think she abandoned her yacht around there.
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What all countries have deployed their P3s and P8s?

That would really be a heck of coordination for Aussies..
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Old 20th Mar 2014, 05:29
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How big was Abby Sunderlands yacht?

I think she abandoned her yacht around there.
In June 2010. Almost fours years ago.
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Old 20th Mar 2014, 05:31
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Coordination likely not a problem

What all countries have deployed their P3s and P8s?

That would really be a heck of coordination for Aussies..
I doubt it. Both aircraft types are US Navy types and the OZ and NZ crew probably trained at US Navy facilities (we trained them decades ago on older P-3's).

They are also all operating from the same airfield, so are probably attending joint briefings and being briefed by the same folks.

They are also native English speakers (well, OZ, well, sure ) which helps.

I doubt they will have any trouble at all.
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Old 20th Mar 2014, 05:33
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What all countries have deployed their P3s and P8s?

That would really be a heck of coordination for Aussies.. "


Strongly disagree.

This is a piece of piss for the RAAF, they are after all a professional lot who do this often, as well as work with NZ and the US, the providers of the other aircraft. The fact they re tasked a C-130 that quick to fly out and drop buoys says a lot, they obviously had the finger on the button.

Australia is not Malaysia and Aus has done this heaps of times before, including in war zones for the last 10 years.
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Old 20th Mar 2014, 05:33
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Debris was described as awash and bobbing.
The Oz Orions have FLIR and visible spectrum nose camera.


Very little shipping activity in this part of the world for thousands of miles…
Apart from the Hang Seng 1
HANG SHENG 1 Current position (IMO N/A MMSI 413501228) - Vessel Finder

51 33 16.8 South 92 35 56.2 EAST
Note that the above info may be bogus as it does not appear in some databases

Perhaps this is the commercial vessel that will be on scene in a few hours?

Piece of piss for the RAAF, they are after all a professional lot who do this often,
Indeed and plenty of recent experience searching for illegal immigrants "boat people" to the North


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Old 20th Mar 2014, 05:33
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Cumulative Search so far

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Day 3 seems to be precise than day 1 & 2.
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Old 20th Mar 2014, 05:35
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@Mesoman.
I believe they have given some of your navy submarines surprises in exercises too.
I notice nothing is said about the extensive sonar type stuff in the area from both Australia and US.
My bet is this would be more signifigent than OTHR.
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Old 20th Mar 2014, 05:36
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Just an aside re the Orion that is on station now. Apparently it is full of media as they were being taken up to get some standard search and rescue footage. Just coincidence that the possible debris was found as they were on way.
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Old 20th Mar 2014, 05:38
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@EXEK1996

I've been following this cargo ship for the past 2 days and it's acting like a fishing vessel.
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Old 20th Mar 2014, 05:38
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Fincastle

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Oz and NZ P3s and US P-8....Fincastle 2014
As an ex-Nimrod techie on Fincastles, ouch.
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Old 20th Mar 2014, 05:40
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Can anyone do a map like above with the Chinese ship, currents and search areas on it as well?
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Old 20th Mar 2014, 05:41
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Sonar

@Mesoman.
I believe they have given some of your navy submarines surprises in exercises too.
I notice nothing is said about the extensive sonar type stuff in the area from both Australia and US.
My bet is this would be more significant than OTHR.
I wouldn't know about the subs, personally. I did help train Aussies and Kiwis in P-3's. I notice that the P-3C endurance (10 hours) is quite a bit less than in the old days - perhaps all the fancy electronics are heavy, or whatever.

I don't know if there is much sonar in that area (presumably, you mean SOSUS or simillar). I doubt it's a very high priority area, and I don't think SOSUS is as important as in cold war days.

Of course, we can't know about sonar. For all we know, SOSUS-like systems heard the crash or ditching. But I doubt it.
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Old 20th Mar 2014, 05:41
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Anyone for overboard shipping containers ? They do lose them over the side occasionally.
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Old 20th Mar 2014, 05:45
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Would the Herc also have life rafts and provisions it could push out the back?
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Old 20th Mar 2014, 05:46
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Possible N/S FMS error.

Reflected to northern hemisphere.

Great Circle Mapper

You must adjust map scale.
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Old 20th Mar 2014, 05:47
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What's wrong with the language ? That's standard English in Australia.

And it's not "chest beating", if you (I see you are in Indonesia) don't like it,
well sorry, tough. We call a spade a spade here in Australia.

Just look at the shambles the Malaysian media conferences are / were versus what the AMSA one's were. And they seemed to have people and aircraft going in all directions, contradicting themselves over what they said previously, confusing to say the least. If they can't present a cool, calm media conference, I'd hate to see what behind the scenes is like.
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Old 20th Mar 2014, 05:48
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MickJoeBIll and EXEK1996, the most credible posts I've seen on this subject yet!

'On scene' in a few hours? Looks like the ship has been 'on scene for a few days...
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Old 20th Mar 2014, 05:50
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"Would the Herc also have life rafts and provisions it could push out the back?
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If it is set up for it, yes.

Zodiac inflatable and Ribs can be pushed out the back on Sleds, with or without people following. You have the "experts" in the West for that type of thing so you never know, especially if they have a warship to pick them up afterwards.
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Old 20th Mar 2014, 05:51
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Anyone for overboard shipping containers ? They do lose them over the side occasionally.
Yes they do but for the Australian PM to announce this I think the imagery must be fairly conclusive. For the families and friends of those missing I hope so.
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