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Old 20th Mar 2014, 04:42
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AMSA doing their level best to locate survivors?

AMSA doing their level best to locate survivors?
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The poor weather is going to be a bugger. The staggered arrival of aircraft plus the C-130 that is going to drop buoys mean any gap in the weather will help.

The AMSA guy and Air Commodore is good at not answering questions if he doesn't know and saying they will get back to them when he has info

Playing a VERY straight bat with the media !
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24 metres x ??. More info needed AMSA.
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Old 20th Mar 2014, 04:43
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Telling near-over-reach by Air Commodore in response to question about credibility of sighting. Almost a statement that they wouldn't be allocating all those resources without very good reason- quickly gulped with a glance to the AMSA chief? Did anyone else notice? Did that mean the object is large enough that there is a tiny chance of survivors clinging to it?
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Four hours flying time (for Orion aircraft) from RAAF Base Pearce (Western Australia) to the site. They can spend about two hours in the area before returning.
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I don't know AMSA's John Young's background, but after all the bog ignorant instant aviation expert news anchors we've endured for the last two weeks, what a breath of fresh air to hear someone speak to the media as he is in the press conference.
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HMAS Success also being diverted to the refined search area but could be days away.
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Old 20th Mar 2014, 04:47
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Yes, he almost over reached.

"24 metres x ??. More info needed AMSA. "

Capt K.

He is waiting for more confirmation and as he just said, he doesn't want to speculate until they have seen them.

The 24 metres is an assessment on the low res Satellite image, that is why they are trying to locate it, get it etc.

High res image and visual from Orions etc will be needed to identify.

They just said images will be released to the media as soon as it is available.


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"I don't know AMSA's John Young's background, but after all the bog ignorant instant aviation expert news anchors we've endured for the last two weeks, what a breath of fresh air to hear someone speak to the media as he is in the press conference."

Agree 100%


What a breath of fresh air, play the media with a straight bat.
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Re: "Telling near-over-reach by Air Commodore in response to question about credibility of sighting. Almost a statement that they wouldn't be allocating all those resources without very good reason- quickly gulped with a glance to the AMSA chief? Did anyone else notice? Did that mean the object is large enough that there is a tiny chance of survivors clinging to it?"

Briefing now over. No new briefing yet scheduled. Mr. Young did specifically say in response to a question about survivor family hopes: "our priority will be to look for survivors first"

-he also indicated other Australian searching would be redirected to this sighting.
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Old 20th Mar 2014, 04:50
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So, aircraft arrive 4, 6 and 8pm so hopefully the weather will clear or be reasonable enough to find and get a visual.

4 hours out, 4 hours back and 2 hours on station searching.

The crews are going to be buggered at the end of each day.


The weather is going to be the problem if it turns to pea soup !
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24m is not 62' Anderson - more like 78'
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Old 20th Mar 2014, 04:51
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A featureless abyssal plain sea bottom would make wreckage really stand out on sonar scans, no?
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A question for T7 drivers or engineers

There has been some speculation regarding a fire or an oxygen bottle explosion in the forward avionics bay.
Based on knowledge of what systems are there, if such an event had occurred, would it be possible for the crew NOT to receive a cabin altitude warning or indication, should a depressurization have occurred?
This could possibly lead to the crew becoming incapacitated, with them attempting to return to KL, becoming disoriented and then losing conscious.
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I don't know AMSA's John Young's background, but after all the bog ignorant instant aviation expert news anchors we've endured for the last two weeks, what a breath of fresh air to hear someone speak to the media as he is in the press conference.
Well said. The difference in professionalism, openness and transparency between the Australians and the Malaysians couldn't be greater.

They are indeed throwing resources at this, however I can't help but feel it will turn out to be unrelated. 24m seems too big to me. Which part of a 777 with its longest side measuring 24m, will still float after a week-and-a-half at sea?
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Old 20th Mar 2014, 04:53
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As reported, low visibility in search area in question:

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Telling near-over-reach by Air Commodore in response to question about credibility of sighting. Almost a statement that they wouldn't be allocating all those resources without very good reason- quickly gulped with a glance to the AMSA chief? Did anyone else notice? Did that mean the object is large enough that there is a tiny chance of survivors clinging to it?
I really does seem like a sudden reallocation of assets and a PM announcement would mean they are convinced it is a real lead. A lot of urgency for a couple of 'blobs' in the water.
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That looks quite a storm.


"I really does seem like a sudden reallocation of assets and a PM announcement would mean they are convinced it is a real lead. A lot of urgency for a couple of 'blobs' in the water."


Really ?

Get real. You have professional people looking at the images and making estimates.


As the AMSA guy said, we have been doing this for years so have some experience in it
and based on that decided to take the course of action they have.

It's a hell of a lot better than how the Malaysians conduct briefings etc !



"like a sudden reallocation of assets"

When you own them, you can do what you want with them. This is bread and butter work for the AMSA, RAAF
and probably the US. I doubt the US would jump on board and re task Poseidon without it being worthwhile.
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Old 20th Mar 2014, 04:56
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Which part of a 777 with its longest side measuring 24m, will still float after a week-and-a-half at sea?
The wings. If it flew to fuel starvation, then fuel tanks in the wings would now be air tanks and float.
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Old 20th Mar 2014, 04:57
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https://twitter.com/WilliamsJon/stat...08093091119104

Australian Broadcasting Corporation editor Jon Williams tweets: Crew on @USNavy P-8 spotter tell (ABC correspondent on board P-8) @WrightUps: "significant radar returns" coming from site where possible #MH370 objects spotted.
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Old 20th Mar 2014, 04:57
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500N John Young referred to the conditions as moderate.

what that means i have no idea. it's pretty wild and wooly out there.
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